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How worried should I be? I have placed my M3's horizontally (on their sides) with the back tipped up a tiny bit, at ear level or slightly over...and I could swear they sound better this way.
Should I just enjoy and be happy, or is this just so WRONG that I must question the reality of my own ears, and force myself to stand them upright again?
Still loving them, but find that positioning is "key" and in my room I have very few options. But this seems to work!
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If it sounds good, great, however by turning them on their sides you would be "turning" the horizontal dispersion of the speaker drivers to be vertical.
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that's what makes me doubt myself. I guess it doesn't hurt to experiment.
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Trust your ears. Try a double blind test where someone else orients them in diff positions.
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great idea, wbedford - thanks!
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I tried a similar experiment with Infinity Primus 150's (which I currently employ as speakers in the living room being fed by a Yamaha HTR-N5060). I couldnt consistently tell the difference between vertical or horizontal placement. The only change I could consistently pick out was when the speaker was oriented upside down vs right side up in vertical placement. Try this with a capable partner (and a few beer). Dont be shy and get the blindfold out. With the right person, Beer, blindfolds and music makes for a fun hour....
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Unless there is a reason why you need to place the speaker on its side because of space issues, there really is no reason to as you would be defeating the whole design/enginerring of the speaker.
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Try this with a capable partner (and a few beer). Dont be shy and get the blindfold out. With the right person, Beer, blindfolds and music makes for a fun hour.... "Hi. I'm here for the audition. I brought the beer. Um, whats the blindfold for?"
Fred
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How is it double blind if one person is clearly able to tell a difference when he sets the speaker?
I'm all for beer-based testing sessions, of course. (In fact, right now I've got some organ music playing at earth-shaking volumes after having a few.) But there's nothing especially double blind about it that I know of.
On another note, I'm going to guess that certain rooms can tolerate this a lot more than others. Specifically, those that are kind of poor for sound in general. In them, horizontal vs vertical probably matters a lot less, as a (total guess here) 10% reduction in quality in a room that only lets you achieve 50% quality anyway is much less noticeably different than a perfectly engineered room.
I'm a bit tipsy though, so noone should put any money behind my guesses and/or logic.
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How is it double blind if one person is clearly able to tell a difference when he sets the speaker? Double blind studies are used to rule out actual differences from prejudice. If you don't know the how's and why's, here's the short of it. The "double" means both the tester and testee, are unaware of which sample is being tested. Or if the tester does know there's no way for that information to be communicated to the testee (that means no forms of communication between the two, not even non-verbal forms like body language). The two samples are presented. The testee is then tasked with identifying each one uniquely after each switch. If he is only correct around 50% of the time, then it is just chance. But if one sample can be identified a majority of the time, then there is a difference. Two very difference speakers will obviously be able to be identified uniquely.
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