Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Thinking of upgrading but not sure what

IMO, you wouldn't gain much going to another sub period, your Hsu is a very good sub. The best money is now spent on upgrading the center or Mains, not that you will here much of a difference there either but it would be more noticeable; too bad the VP180 won't work for you.

If you must change something (I just noticed you are running QS4's), there is a noticeable difference when moving to the QS8's from the 4's, so perhaps this is where you could improve your sound, or did I miss the reason for not being able to upgrade them.

No reason on the QS8's. Just not sure how much difference I'll notice. I mean the rears are only used minamally when watching a movie. If I turn up the volume on the QS4's will I still be missing much on the QS8's?

My QS8s were a great improvement over the QS4s for music, at least. TV/movies seem better too, but that's harder to say.

I don't think turning up the volume on the QS4s has nothing to do with the difference with the QS8s. All speakers should be compared when playing at the same level.

When I was looking at the Q8's or the 4's...I was told the 8's just play louder and better suited for larger room. I have the Q4's in my living room ~2700^3 and they sound great...IMO.

The QS8s have the ability to play louder than the QS4s. It isn't that they are over-all louder.

I did a little testing today and played both Iron Man 2 and War of the Worlds Blu Rays. Overall I am really happy with my system. Sometimes I just feel like I could get more bottom end but...my sub's pretty darn good!

I think the main reason I was looking at the M80's is because those are what I initially wanted but couldn't afford and so went with the M60's. I've always had a sinful lust for the 80s I guess...

I know Dan did an A/B comparison with QS4's and QS8's and it was mentioned that the 8 just sounded better. I had originally ordered 4's and went up to the the 8's (but this was back when the 4's had a different tweeter) and the change was very noticeable. I would imagine you would notice the 4 to 8 change the most while listening to music in multichannel as the 5 1/4" drivers all have the same tone for a perfect match.

Or order up those M80s and get your secret decoder ring

Just to add my 2 cents...I recently purchased M80's. I'm adding an amp because my AVR didn't satisfy me with 4 ohm loads (aka M80's and the VP180). However, many here that have no problems with an AVR running M80's but that has not been my experience, YMMV!

Adding an amp can be an expensive option and you've said your budget is limited. The M60's, and the rest are 8 ohms which are easier to drive with an AVR...Hell, now that I think of it just get an amp! When you get more tax money upgrade to the 80's, Problem solved!

Seriously, since you can't do the center...I had the 150 and while it's very good the 180 is just better period...and you want better bass then the EP500 may do it! The 80's, while great, won't do anything that your sub isn't doing already.

Personally I'd upgrade the QS4's to the 8's and yes, there is a difference!

Thanks guys! I'm going to think it over. I'm not in a rush.