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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
ClubNeon #343821 04/01/11 02:39 PM
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One thing that bothers me is when someone is talking facing the camera and everything is in sync. When the actor starts facing the other direction (but we can still see the lips), the sound goes out of sync. I've noticed that a few times but I'm not sure if it's related to that or the receiver lip syncing option.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
bdpf #343823 04/01/11 02:49 PM
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It's probably ADR. I notice it too sometimes. That's why they don't do everything as ADR, because it's hard to even lip-sync with yourself.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
ClubNeon #343824 04/01/11 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
lip-sync with yourself.
Uh uh uh Ohhh.

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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
Murph #343826 04/01/11 02:59 PM
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It's probably easier to lip-sync to music, especially a song you've heard (or "sung") 100s of times. Delivering a line that you've only said a few times before, with exactly the same cadence (without a backing rhythm) and intensity is hard.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
Murph #343827 04/01/11 03:00 PM
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Since we're at it, can someone explain why on some movies the audio is completely off throughout the whole movie? I have a few movies where I need to adjust the audio delay on the AVR to 200ms or else everything is off. How can that be? Wolverine on BD is the one that comes to my mind right now.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
bdpf #343828 04/01/11 03:02 PM
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The Adamantium is playing havoc with the signal.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
bdpf #343829 04/01/11 03:04 PM
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I've never noticed OoS issues with major features, but I see reports of it on AVS sometimes. It was mostly with older receivers that were receiving bitsteamed audio. The theory in that case was the receiver was taking too long to decode the compressed audio frame.

Then again, I also don't use bitsteaming, and let the player do all the work. So there can be no variation between the endcoded and decoded frame lengths.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
ClubNeon #343830 04/01/11 03:10 PM
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I don't do bitstreaming neither. In the case of Wolverine, I believe the track is a DTS Master HD? Strange!


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
ClubNeon #343832 04/01/11 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
But keep the background noise constant, don't make it go silent between each line, that's just draws attention to the noise.

It's SOP to record "room tone" to insert as needed for exactly that reason.


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Re: Dialog Inteligibility with VP180
MarkSJohnson #343833 04/01/11 03:24 PM
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Yeah, room tone should be mixed in when doing ADR, but in this case they are removing it from live audio. Very odd.


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