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Re: M80's VS Swan Diva 6.2
bobt #344113 04/04/11 11:15 PM
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Out of curiosity, have you ever tried multi-channel music on a good speaker setup?


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Re: M80's VS Swan Diva 6.2
bdpf #344115 04/04/11 11:37 PM
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Well yes, i have an old set of Advent studio monitors, that i can use as a 4 speaker setup.

But again, i'm old, a 2 channel analog nut, want to sit in the sweet spot, and expect my speakers to deliver, the major sound i want.

I'm sure a big HT set up is great, but i don't have the money for that nore want it.

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bobt #344128 04/05/11 12:39 AM
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The way I enjoy this hobby is to get as much performance as I can out of 2 channel stereo. I never feel that I am limiting myself. caveat: I may get a sub some day for watching movies

In about 2 weeks I will have a new pair of M80s sitting alongside my 50 inch plasma. I will let you know how I make out.


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Lampshade #344132 04/05/11 01:31 AM
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I was a two channel, well 2.1, guy for the longest time. Just last year I ended up making the jump to a full surround set up and could not be happier. I wouldn't ever want to go back to just stereo. The difference is huge and that is in a good way.


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Re: M80's VS Swan Diva 6.2
Lampshade #344133 04/05/11 01:32 AM
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Bob, you would be VERY hard pressed to find a set of speakers for 2 channel listening that will sound as good as the M80s for the money you spend on them. This isn't to say that there are no better speaker than the M80, IMO, there is/are, but for this kind of money I haven't found a set yet.


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Re: M80's VS Swan Diva 6.2
bobt #344138 04/05/11 02:30 AM
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Bob, along with Bruno, I have to comment that your view about "strait 2 channel stereo" isn't very realistic. My own listening is almost entirely classical(including Bach, which I'm listening to at the moment on the KUSC stream)and I'd never consider limiting myself to listening to 2-channel source materials on only front speakers when surrounds are available. Most of the sound at a concert comes to us as reflected ambience from directions other than the front. This is picked up by the mikes and has to be mixed into the front channels in 2-channel source material(there's no place else to put it). A mode such as DPLII detects the phase differences in this mixed-in surround material, extracts it from the front channels and directs it to the surrounds where it belongs. This makes the overall listening experience a little closer to reality and more enjoyable. The difference can be immediately appreciated by suddenly switching on the remote from surround to stereo and hearing the sound field collapse toward the front.




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JohnK #344139 04/05/11 02:45 AM
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Don't knock it until you try it Bob. smile


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bobt #344142 04/05/11 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: bobt
i don't care about the room shaking for the earthquake, But the cannons on the 1812 i do

I don't know how deep in the frequency range the cannons dig (others familiar with this piece might comment) but you might consider M22s + sub as well. Agree, it's not a pure 2.0, it's a 2.1 but at least it will play lower than the M80s if need be.


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bdpf #344148 04/05/11 04:42 AM
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You get M80's then add the sub if you are going to go 2.1 wink


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Originally Posted By: Lampaxiom
The way I enjoy this hobby is to get as much performance as I can out of 2 channel stereo. I never feel that I am limiting myself. caveat: I may get a sub some day for watching movies

In about 2 weeks I will have a new pair of M80s sitting alongside my 50 inch plasma. I will let you know how I make out.


i urge you to carefully consider the size of that tv you want to buy, Lampaxiom, i did buy a measly 42in. 3 years ago, and have regretted it since then because i'm kind of a lazy guy, and the thing is that this 42in. is very tiring to watch as before, with the small screen one, i only had to move my eyes to scan the whole screen, now i have to move my head, which spends way more calories, and i get neck strain too.
The doctor told me to not move my head, but instead to move my whole body to look at different parts of the on screen image.
Prevention is better than cure.

you have been warned!

:-D

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