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#345732 - 04/22/11 12:44 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: pmbuko]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
Originally Posted By: pmbuko
We can only guess what you mean by "opened up and sing".
I was picturing Michigan J. Frog out of the box and singing smile
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#345748 - 04/22/11 06:04 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: pmbuko]
JohnK Offline
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Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10395
Peter, I've found that my M22s "opened up and sing" whenever I turn them on and a vocalist is performing, regardless of the specific amplification being employed.
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#345920 - 04/23/11 06:16 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: JohnK]
2x6spds Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
The orthodox mob here (you'll know them by the number of posts - 8,000 plus) believe as an article of faith that there is no difference in sound quality among different solid state amps.

Although it may appear to be a bizarre article of faith, nevertheless, it is central to the mantra of these true believers. They mock people who disagree with them. You may notice that on many occasions they are the only members on the board. They do not usually post alone, but in series. They have managed to reduce the traffic on this site to almost zero, but they have accomplished their goal of keeping out the riff raff who disagree with them. Yes, the faithful here share the true faith. Here are the tenets you must believe:

1. The only component which effects sound quality is the speaker and as to that, Axioms are the best.

2. All solid state amps (well designed) of similar power output sound identical.

3. All tube amplifiers are merely distortion generators.

4. All digital audio sources (DVD, CD) perfectly reproduce sound quality since the data consists only of 1's and 0's.

5. All Cables and interconnects of sufficient gauge sound identical.

Now, if you disagree with any of these tenets of the one true audio faith, you are subject to a lecture from he who knows it all, hi John, snarky insults from the sarcastic sycophant, hi there pmb, or their clack of flacks, hey Jake.

Govern your conduct accordingly.

As for me, I just felt a bit sarcastic today myself.
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#345922 - 04/23/11 06:55 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
CV Offline
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Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 11208
Loc: Richland, WA, USA
We love you, Brother.

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#345940 - 04/24/11 12:02 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: CV]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
You have me all wrong 2x4.
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#345944 - 04/24/11 12:23 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: jakewash]
CatBrat Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 5876
Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
My M22's were opening up and singing too. But, then I woke up. I decided it must of just been gas.

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#345948 - 04/24/11 02:02 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: CatBrat]
2x6spds Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
Thank you brother CV, Jake, I'll grow the other 2 back soon enough! Cat, what big teeth you have.
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#345960 - 04/24/11 01:58 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16280
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
My audio beliefs boil down to a simple choice. I place my "faith" in assertions that have been tested and supported by hard data rather than anecdotal claims that have not.

As it turns out, this choice requires no faith at all.
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#345984 - 04/24/11 08:13 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: pmbuko]
2x6spds Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
So, pmb, I checked out your profile to see if you listed information about your audio equipment, since, after all, you are a shareholder in the making, and a commissar on the users politburo, and spend more time on this site than any other person, so, what did I find? ... nothing.

I wanted to make sure you had not invested in anything more than a bargain basement amplifier if a standalone, a bargain basement CD, DVD player, since one is as good as another.

I wanted to confirm that you are true to the faith of output equality, and the negation of distinction between/among solid state amplifiers, CD players, DVD players.

Oh well. I'm sure you will let us know.
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#345987 - 04/24/11 08:55 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3448
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
I believe the same as Peter. Feel free to audit my gear. I admit it was a mistake to buy the DV-79AVi, but I shouldn't take too much of a loss when I sell it for an Oppo universal player (and not the one with the fancy analog outs).

I also have two Final Sound subwoofers (sold via closeout by Outlaw), and all my wire is by Blue Jeans.
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