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Distraction #366312 02/11/12 09:35 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Well, my plan to get new speakers is slightly delayed. Only slightly. I'm ordering an Emotiva XPA-3 amp to run my front three channels. I think I'm going to go with three M80 v3s across the front, so I wanted to have some external amplification. There seems to be less cause for worry these days, so fingers crossed. Now I'll be saving for the M80s. Hopefully I'll have them when the mystery device is ready to be rolled out.

Re: Distraction CV #366313 02/11/12 09:38 PM Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,236 Millis, MA Lampshade connoisseur Lampshade connoisseur Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,236 Millis, MA I waited for the mystery device but it has been too much of a mystery so I bought an AVR. Three 80's across is my dream. I hope it is awesome. M3 and M80

Re: Distraction CV #366315 02/11/12 10:13 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island Originally Posted By: CV There seems to be less cause for worry these days, so fingers crossed. Charles, you must have not read these threads about problems with the XPA-3 amps and M80s: My XPA-3 Caught Fire! I'm returning this POS amp! Are my speakers destroyed? I've had it! ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: Distraction MarkSJohnson #366317 02/11/12 10:19 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA

Re: Distraction Lampshade #366318 02/11/12 10:25 PM Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 dakkon connoisseur dakkon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 Originally Posted By: Lampshade I waited for the mystery device but it has been too much of a mystery so I bought an AVR. Three 80's across is my dream. I hope it is awesome. I kind of wonder how many people were "waiting" and have since stopped waiting to buy something instead.... I think that Axiom dropped the ball on this one, if they would have at least said what the "mystery" device was, or what it was going to do.. Then people would have been willing to wait... The following of their product should be evident by their underestimation of the demand for the VP-180 or the VP150->180 upgrades that they got.....

Re: Distraction CV #366320 02/11/12 11:36 PM Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,236 Millis, MA Lampshade connoisseur Lampshade connoisseur Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,236 Millis, MA Dakkon, you speak my mind. M3 and M80

Re: Distraction CV #366321 02/12/12 01:13 AM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa hope you enjoy the new diggs once setup M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Distraction SirQuack #366323 02/12/12 01:27 AM Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 901 Victoria,BC S SBrown aficionado SBrown aficionado S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 901 Victoria,BC Yup, it's been very quiet around here. But then again, nobody(Ian) answers me.

Re: Distraction CV #366384 02/12/12 07:43 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta Did somebody say something? Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Distraction jakewash #366437 02/13/12 04:59 AM Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 901 Victoria,BC S SBrown aficionado SBrown aficionado S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 901 Victoria,BC BOO!

Re: Distraction CV #366547 02/14/12 05:44 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Originally Posted By: CV I'm ordering an Emotiva XPA-3 amp to run my front three channels. It was shipped today with estimated delivery on Friday. Here's hoping I have it for the weekend!

Re: Distraction CV #366548 02/14/12 05:46 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Originally Posted By: CV Well, my plan to get new speakers is slightly delayed. Only slightly. It's delayed slightly again. I was approved for time off in May and August, so I'll need to pay for tickets to the Sasquatch music festival and the Chicago Comic Con. Then I'll focus my money back on new Axioms. I'm excited.

Re: Distraction CV #366825 02/16/12 06:15 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA In anticipation of the new amplifier: I figured I'd get some of the ultrasonically-welded, banana-terminated Blue Jeans speaker cables. Totally bought them simply for the swank factor.

Re: Distraction CV #366828 02/16/12 07:13 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta One of them looks to be broken Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Distraction CV #366829 02/16/12 07:35 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA That part is simply unscrewed.

Re: Distraction CV #366830 02/16/12 07:40 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta I knew that, just trying to mess with ya. Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Distraction jakewash #366832 02/16/12 08:40 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Originally Posted By: jakewash I knew that, just trying to mess with ya. If you want to do that, there's always my love life. Ha ha.

Re: Distraction CV #366844 02/16/12 02:11 PM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire BlueJays1 connoisseur BlueJays1 connoisseur Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire Originally Posted By: CV In anticipation of the new amplifier: I figured I'd get some of the ultrasonically-welded, banana-terminated Blue Jeans speaker cables. Totally bought them simply for the swank factor. Very nice! Is this your first time with BJC's locking banana plugs? Well worth it, they are awesome. I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne

Re: Distraction CV #366880 02/16/12 05:35 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Yes, my first locking banana plugs of any brand. Good stuff.

Re: Distraction CV #366883 02/16/12 05:46 PM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire BlueJays1 connoisseur BlueJays1 connoisseur Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire Definitely. BJC's interconnects with the Canare and Taversoe RCA connections are killer. Say goodbye to "death grip". I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne

Re: Distraction CV #366991 02/17/12 05:09 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta Funny how those cables look to be Belkin CL2 rated wires with a fancy banana plug on the end (how'd I do CV) Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Distraction jakewash #366994 02/17/12 05:13 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Hey, as long as part of it looks fancy!

Re: Distraction CV #367188 02/18/12 05:28 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Well, I have the XPA-3. FedEx Ground tried to deliver when I was in the shower, but thankfully the same guy delivers to where I work at the hospital, so he had me sign there and took it back to my house. It's all hooked up and works. Well, I haven't tried anything using the center channel yet. The only issue is there is a distractingly loud hum now. I'll have to see what I can do about it.

Re: Distraction CV #367220 02/18/12 03:20 PM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire BlueJays1 connoisseur BlueJays1 connoisseur Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire You probably introduced a ground loop into the system. I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne

Re: Distraction CV #367244 02/18/12 07:51 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA I'm never good at diagnosing these. When I have the amp on but the receiver off, only the M22 center is making the hum. The M80s are just putting out a faint hiss. When I turn the receiver on, they all make the hum. When it's just the amp on and not the receiver, the hum does follow the M22 if I switch what channel of the amp it's on. What could this mean?

Re: Distraction CV #367248 02/18/12 08:28 PM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire BlueJays1 connoisseur BlueJays1 connoisseur Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire I think its still a ground loop that you introduced between the pre-amp and amp. Try disconnecting cables one at a time starting with any RCA types. I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne

Re: Distraction CV #367256 02/18/12 11:01 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA With none of the RCAs on the receiver and amp connected, the hum does go away. Once I add any of them, the hum is back, so you're right. What would you suggest at this point, or is there a good checklist somewhere I can refer to?

Re: Distraction CV #367266 02/19/12 01:11 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Okay, I'm really dumb. It was the first thing I should have checked. I still had the TV antenna hooked up to the TV. I thought I had disconnected it ages ago since I watch TV through WMC on my computer these days. Or I will again after I update my Nvidia drivers, anyway. In any case, I noticed it was still connected. I unplugged it, and now it's eerie silence when it should be. Except for the sound of the world's longest duuuuuuuuh.

Re: Distraction CV #367267 02/19/12 01:14 AM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire BlueJays1 connoisseur BlueJays1 connoisseur Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire Great! Anyways here is a checklist for your amp in case you run into any other issues in the future. http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index...2709&page=1 I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne

Re: Distraction CV #367268 02/19/12 01:14 AM Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,236 Millis, MA Lampshade connoisseur Lampshade connoisseur Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,236 Millis, MA CV, slightly off topic, but have you ever considered relocating to Massachusetts? Bob and I could have come over and helped you. M3 and M80

Re: Distraction BlueJays1 #367270 02/19/12 01:34 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Originally Posted By: BlueJays1 Great! Anyways here is a checklist for your amp in case you run into any other issues in the future. http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index...2709&page=1 Thanks! Hopefully I won't need it, but I'll keep it bookmarked.

Re: Distraction CV #367278 02/19/12 02:39 AM Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire BlueJays1 connoisseur BlueJays1 connoisseur Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,116 Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire So does the amp sound better than your receiver? ...haha I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne

Re: Distraction BlueJays1 #367281 02/19/12 03:42 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA I'd say yes. The bass seems more pronounced. And the sound is cleaner, but it could just be the ground loop being dealt with.

Re: Distraction CV #367307 02/19/12 06:16 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta Double check to make sure you have the settings exaclty the same as before, increased bass just because you added an amp shouldn't be happening, I bet its the interconnects Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Distraction jakewash #367308 02/19/12 06:33 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA I can be sure the settings aren't the same because I re-calibrated after introducing it to the system. I've also been trying it with and without Audyssey. I wasn't using it before, and I can't say for sure whether it was engaged or not when I was noticing the bass, so there's that, too. In any case, I'm happy with the quality of the sound at higher volumes. Doesn't feel like it's becoming compressed when I'm pushing it.

Re: Distraction CV #367309 02/19/12 06:41 AM Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 dakkon connoisseur dakkon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 Originally Posted By: CV . Doesn't feel like it's becoming compressed when I'm pushing it. Welcome to the world of outboard amps! enjoy.

Re: Distraction dakkon #367310 02/19/12 06:58 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV OP Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making OP CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA I've actually been to this world before with the A1400-8. That's one reason I'm eager to hear more news on the new version.