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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
BlueJays1 #367956 02/26/12 01:28 AM
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I have 10awg for my power cord,and you guys were rubbing me...now it's speaker wires! Cardas is all I say to that!

Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367958 02/26/12 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: justinwacker
...but the 16 is Monster THX cert that I use for surrounds...

Justin, please don't get sucked in by the 'monster'. You're only paying for the name, and the proceeds go to their lawyers so they can sue anyone who uses 'Monster' in their name. Almost any decent copper wire from Monoprice, Home Depot, Axiom, etc. will do the job.


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M60 VP160 QS8 EP350
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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367959 02/26/12 02:46 AM
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Justin, if you haven't studied it already, note that the info on speaker wire found here is essential reading. This is an area of audio plagued with charlatans selling magic wire at absurd prices. There's essentially no meaningful technical complexity involved here, and if your runs aren't unusually long you have nothing to gain by changing your present setup.

As to the surrounds, the side surrounds in a 5.1 setup can benefit by being located slightly(maybe 2')farther back than directly to the side of the listening position, to lend a little more phantom back surround in the absence of actual 7.1 back surround speakers. With 7.1 they can be directly to the side, with the back surrounds spread about as widely as the distance that they're behind the listening position. The surrounds can be placed about 2-3' above ear level.


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367963 02/26/12 04:46 AM
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I appreciate the healthy amount of replies from everyone. It sounds like the general consensus is more or less what research has suggested. If it ain't a total P.O.S. it's not really worth switching unless I actually need new cable for new runs.

Joe in Ct: Just so you know, I'm with you on the Monster topic. I picked that roll up because it was dirt cheap on Amazon for a 100' roll. I tell my customers ALL the time that my wimpy looking HDMI cable is as good as whatever the dude at Best Buy tried to sell them.


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367964 02/26/12 05:03 AM
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I love showing people Monoprice HDMI cables for a $1.59 right after they bought 30-40 dollar ones.


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
Lampshade #367972 02/26/12 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lampshade
I love showing people Monoprice HDMI cables for a $1.59 right after they bought 30-40 dollar ones.


I will say that the cheapest of the cheap might be too cheap just because of general build quality. I have seen a couple bad cables from monoprice/amazon. Doesn't happen to often but does happen. I guess while I trust cheap HDMI cables I'd still recommend to not the the absolute cheapest one.


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
Lampshade #367973 02/26/12 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lampshade
I love showing people Monoprice HDMI cables for a $1.59 right after they bought 30-40 dollar ones.


So THIS explains why you've been chased out of the Best Buy parking lot 3-4 times a week!


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367977 02/26/12 02:42 PM
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nothing wrong with Mono's 12 awg, quality wise.


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367981 02/26/12 03:03 PM
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I have never heard about a bad mono price hdmi. They don't feel cheap at all.


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Re: Minimum Gauge for M80s / VP180?
justinwacker #367982 02/26/12 03:10 PM
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I guess for the value of those cables... even if 1 in 50 is bad, and it's probably less than that, you still made out like a banshee.

Here's a multi photo sort-of panorama around my room. My toughest area to work with is the left channel surround and the rear surrounds if I add them. What's everyone think about placement of surrounds?












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