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#373712 - 04/19/12 04:09 PM Re: REDray [Re: CV]
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Really, you're that brand loyal? What if the Sony performs better, but costs less? I'm not even remotely thinking that will happen, but....
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#373740 - 04/19/12 07:17 PM Re: REDray [Re: CV]
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I'm that disloyal to Sony. Other than the Playstation (because no one else makes a compatible product), I will never own any other electronics manufactured by Sony.
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#373742 - 04/19/12 07:22 PM Re: REDray [Re: ClubNeon]
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
I'm that disloyal to Sony. Other than the Playstation (because no one else makes a compatible product), I will never own any other electronics manufactured by Sony.


So there! Pppttthhhhhhhhh!

Seriously though, I'm with you. Burned too many times.
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#373801 - 04/20/12 08:01 AM Re: REDray [Re: ClubNeon]
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
I'm that disloyal to Sony. Other than the Playstation (because no one else makes a compatible product), I will never own any other electronics manufactured by Sony.


Agreed. It hurt me to buy a PS3 but what can I say. It was the right choice for me so I overcame my personal bias.
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#373830 - 04/20/12 10:36 AM Re: REDray [Re: CV]
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I must have missed the memo. I did not realize Sony had such a negative fan base. Did you know that they have a 90 day projector swap out program? If your new projector goes on the fritz within 90 days of receipt, you call them up, they send you a new projector and you send yours back to them. No shipping charges or anything. I'm not a Sony fan, and the vpl es95 I have now is only the second Sony product I can remember buying, but I have to say that I've been impressed as hell with the projector and their installation support. But I certainly understand the disgruntled attitudes towards a manufacture. I feel the same way about Marantz, and will not consider Marantz for any future purchases.
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#373831 - 04/20/12 10:45 AM Re: REDray [Re: CV]
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So that means the projector will fail at 91 days. I've never had any trouble with a Sony product while in warranty. It's what happens shortly after that keeps me from buying anything else from them.

I'm sure my 60 gig PS3 would be dead by now, if I had not removed the warranty voiding sticker, and cleaned the dust out (no way to do that without removing the sticker), and replaced there messy application of white thermal paste with a nice thin layer of Arctic Silver.
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#374135 - 04/24/12 12:39 PM Re: REDray [Re: CV]
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I thought I was just being unfair and that I just must have had bad luck. It was my bad experiences that actually turned me into a researchaholic when I buy stuff now.

When I last considered a Sony product a number of years ago, it became very quickly apparent that when you compare features per dollar with any compatible product line, Sony always has the least amount of specs or features in the price range.

That backed up my grumpiness to some degree of justification. Then I listened to a CBC radio special that was discussing the trend beginning in the mid to late 70s of companies starting to rely more and more on marketing instead of product quality. Sony was very frequently used as an example of a company that poured tons of money into R&D and as a result became know as true innovators in the electronics industry. However, through interviews with former staff and management, it then described how over time people saw huge portions of their R&D departments shut down and funds were diverted to inversely growing marketing departments. Quality was purposefully cheapened but prices remained the same based on the company's "brand."

Finally the last straw for me back in 2005 was the Sony trojan that they snuck into their music label CDs. Play the CD on your computer and it secretly installed a program there as a rootkit. This prevented you from playing it or other similarly coded Sony CDs so you couldn't copy them. It was the early days of copy protection but no one should be able to install something on my PC that I don't authorize. Also, copy protection, OK if you feel you must, but now I can't listen to it either?

Sadly, in the end, I suck at holding grudges as I did buy a PS3.

Rant over, as I just defeated myself with that last sentence.
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#374188 - 04/24/12 11:11 PM Re: REDray [Re: Murph]
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Originally Posted By: Murph
Sadly, in the end, I suck at holding grudges as I did buy a PS3.

Rant over, as I just defeated myself with that last sentence.

I bought my PS3 second hand. That way Sony did not profit from my purchase. That's what I tell myself anyway...
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#374189 - 04/24/12 11:51 PM Re: REDray [Re: CV]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3448
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
I bought my PS3 when it was first released. Sony actually lost money on my sale.
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#374190 - 04/25/12 12:45 AM Re: REDray [Re: Murph]
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 1846
Originally Posted By: Murph
Sadly, in the end, I suck at holding grudges as I did buy a PS3.


Why did you buy a PS3? video games?

My uncle ALWAYS raves about his Sony Bravia LCD flat screen... I just don't have the heart to tell him for the same amount that he paid for his SONY LCD, he could have gotten a Pioneer Kuro which would be WAY better in my opinion... He believes the crap that the sales people tell him.... frown

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