Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler all AMP'S sound the same

2x6 My confusion comes from the fact that I have been back and forth, from top to bottom, of this thread and the only post I can see from Cam is where he quoted Peter on technical opinions and added a happy face. To me his message was simple and easily understood. It was "I agree with the above."

The above had nothing to do with politics and a person's signature is not considered in scope with the body of a message, at least not in the Internet culture I have lived in. He has had that same sig for some time. It's not like you have not seen it before and it definitely wasn't just created for the topic at hand.

It was the jump away from a technical topic to an attack that bothered me.

To respond to your concepts of why I suddenly broke out of a normally solid shell when it comes to our boards conduct:

I am not defending, nor rebutting, socialist values. There are other threads where that is being discussed and I didn't participate in those either. This would be an example of why.

I'm also hardly a purist, I derail threads with the best of them. However, it's usually either a natural progression of topics though or perhaps some light hearted humour.

You are correct. I love the Axiom board because of it's boundless discussions. Please, by all means, continue to to discuss your political views. I believe you have that right and I encourage it. I actually enjoyed reading about the pro & con socialist argument in the other threads. I don't feel I'm educated in the topic to share my opinions on it but by listening I learn.

My point was not to discourage political discussion. I am simply of the opinion that when you take a totally non-political thread and suddenly suddenly choose to 100% change the context by accusing a person of moronic thinking based on their personal beliefs, then this is not the furthering of any discussion, it's a personal attack.

We see it all the time of course, and anyone on an Internet board must learn to suck it up and live with it. No prob. I can deal with that. I think it was just the super sudden shift in gears that threw me off kilter

Long post. Apologies to furthering the derailment to those who disagree with me. At first I was going to let it drop but then I figured, If you have the right to say what you said , then I, at the very least, have the right to explain my thinking as well.

I'm getting really annoyed that I have to wear reading glasses now. I know I'm not that old but not needing any sort of glasses for 36+ years then seemingly all of a sudden having to use them to read text is rather frustrating.

I'll miss being able to mock my wife for being blind without her glasses on. /sniff

...how's that for a new derailment?

1.50+ for me. I ordered 3 pkgs of 4 from Amazon.com, sprinkle them everywhere.

At the risk of derailing the derailment, I have some favorite cds which I love. Some amps make these cuts shine. Some less. No A/B testing. It's just a matter of living with the system for a while - and the music. People are not test equipment. Music is not reduceable to a frequncy response curve. Not all amps sound the same.

Socialism steals our liberty, our distinctiveness, our dignity and our property. Proudhon was a fool.

I have often overlooked this myself. A controlled test can't account for this since it is based at a "point in time" which can be influenced by several biases including how an individual was feeling that day.

Same principle applies subjectively to auditioning equipment in a showroom. Something that might sound great for 20 minutes might not be something you want to listen to over 3 hours, a week, a month or year.

Your statement is extremely pertinent 2X6.

Working out, BlueJays1?

Buff, smart and only slightly off axis. Good on ya.

I agree, my system often sounds much better when it's 70 degrees outside, I have my windows open, and there's a nice breeze.

But the controlled ABX test isn't about which sounds better, it's about can you tell the difference between A and B. As long as the conditions remain the same throughout the trial, it doesn't matter if you're having a good day or not.

Right, indeed. One doesn't need to "spend quality time with a device" to figure out whether one sounds different than the other. Your brain-ear system doesn't need to ease in in order to detect subtle nuances. The part that takes time is deciding whether you like it or not.

Actually, mine sounds best with the lights off on a calm night in the winter (less outside traffic, wind ect) with the furnace not running. When the noise floor is at its lowest possible point and my senses are most acute.

My car runs better when it's just been washed and waxed.

My car hates the sound made by hammers.