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#381359 - 08/12/12 01:50 AM Global Warming - We've Been Here Before
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Lysenkoism is used colloquially to describe the manipulation or distortion of the scientific process as a way to reach a predetermined conclusion as dictated by an ideological bias, often related to social or political objectives. [Wikipedia]

Lysenkoism was a fallacious genetic theory approved by Stalin and the Central Committee and the Soviet Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences. Dissenting voices were silenced and Soviet agriculture was devastated by the faithful.

Global warming ... today's Lysenkoism, brought to you by political elites who silence dissenting scientific voices. Just as Lysenkoism destroyed Soviet agriculture so will the politically driven Global Warming faithful destroy our industry unless their war on productivity and material progress is engaged and stopped.
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#381363 - 08/12/12 07:29 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: 2x6spds]
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#381365 - 08/12/12 08:41 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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If one only looks at the data from the last 800 years, then one might conclude that the rise in temperature since the industrial revolution might have something to do with human activity on the planet. But when one goes further back in time one quickly realizes that we probably have little impact on global temperatures. Greenland, after all, wasn't always covered with a sheet of ice, hence the name GREEN-land. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/09/hockey-stick-observed-in-noaa-ice-core-data/
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#381366 - 08/12/12 08:41 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: 2x6spds]
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Wow. Just... Wow. You really have NO idea how real science actually works, do you? If you did, that post would not have left your brain, but would have even quelled by you understanding of peer review.

There is no "elite club" of scientists. There are just individuals. That's the sort of paranoid, anti-intellectual belief that got hundreds of educated people rounded up and thrown into labor camps -- or worse -- in a certain global conflict. You should know better than to use the same brush to attempt force reality into a portrait that matches your vision.

I'm completely appalled.
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#381367 - 08/12/12 08:54 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: 2x6spds]
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Having been around both Masters and PhD level scientific research, university institutions and their elite are certainly some of the worst when it comes to playing "politics" to further ones own agenda. Yes, even peer review is not immune to this because it's not just one person but the head of departments playing the "game".
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#381368 - 08/12/12 08:56 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: pmbuko]
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Actually, as a research scientist, I have a very good idea of how science works. In a lot of cases the work is catered to get the results one wants. My name is on several patents because another patent claimed that a product could not be made by a particular method.
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#381369 - 08/12/12 08:58 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: a401classic]
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Originally Posted By: a401classic
Actually, as a research scientist, I have a very good idea of how science works. In a lot of cases the work is catered to get the results one wants. My name is on several patents because another patent claimed that a product could not be made by a particular method.


This is actually quite true.
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#381371 - 08/12/12 09:16 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: 2x6spds]
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Scott, you should note that Peter's post was a reply to 2x6.
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#381372 - 08/12/12 09:48 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Ahh, didn't catch that... sorry Peter.
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#381373 - 08/12/12 09:48 AM Re: Global Warming - We've Been Here Before [Re: a401classic]
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No disrespect intended, but as a research scientist, you could have found a better way to make your argument than to quote such a biased source as the world renowned blogger and pseudo scientist, Anthony Watts. The man has far too much invested in maintaining his blog readership on the global warming issue.
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