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#383764 - 10/06/12 03:20 PM Closet shelves
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So the previous owner of this place (a flipper) installed crapass Closet Maid wire shelves in the closets. I've had two collapse now, so I've decided to replace them with simple 3/4" plywood shelves on top of 1x4 all around with metal supports in the middle and proper wooden hanger rods.

Uuuuunfortunately, I've just run into a hitch. I have a rather iffy studfinder, but what I've discovered with it (and by putting a big enough hole into the drywall to shine a light in) is that the closet is built with metal studs. Any tips on how to deal with this? I have no desire to replace the studs in the closet, but I'm not sure what kind of screws to use to secure the 1x4s and supports or whether what I want to do is even feasible.

For reference, I'm doing something like this. And yes, I've already bought the plywood and the lumber, although I haven't cut it to exact size yet.
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#383772 - 10/06/12 06:29 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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Hey Ken, forget about going into the steel studs and buy these.
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#383775 - 10/06/12 07:55 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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What I've been seeing online (aside from the whole cut open your wall and put in wood thing) is toggle bolts into the metal studs.
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#383781 - 10/06/12 10:19 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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If you're not going to load them up with books or something else heavy, toggle bolts into the sheetrock will work. Drilling toggles into the metal studs will be a PITA. For clothes and the like, a toggle every 12" to 16" should be plenty.
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#383782 - 10/06/12 10:29 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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I would not be too terribly surprised if we put heavy things on the shelves. That's what we did before, after all. I figure I'll be buying myself some strength with the 1x4s, but I just wasn't sure whether to do toggle bolts into the studs or the sheetrock.

Then again, if it falls down, then I'll be able to practice drywalling and actually put up wood between the studs. Whee. Better the sheetrock rips out than the metal studs bend.
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#383783 - 10/06/12 10:50 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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Yep, metal studs without wood blocking are basically worthless for holding anything besides sheetrock.

A couple of other options that I've used are through-bolting to another 1x4 on the other side of the wall (depending on what's on the other side) or using vertical legs down to the floor. You might also try something wider than 1x4 so you could put 3-4 screws into each stud. Make sure to use screws specifically designed for metal studs (fine, not coarse, thread, and drill point).
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#383784 - 10/06/12 11:04 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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Heh. What's in the other side is the other closet. This could have potential! Do you put the bolt through drywall or through the studs?


Edited by Ken.C (10/06/12 11:07 PM)
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#383811 - 10/07/12 01:16 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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Back to back closets is ideal. You can have cleats for both closets at the same time. You can just bolt through the drywall, but try to stay close to the studs so you don't crack the drywall if you over-tighten the bolts. Don't ask me how I know this.
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#383812 - 10/07/12 03:11 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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Yeah, I kind of thought that was something of a danger.
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#383813 - 10/07/12 03:24 PM Re: Closet shelves [Re: Ken.C]
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I have used these on a number of projects with great success. Most recently putting in a custom closet.

This is a med size one. Into drywall, each one is good for 75 lbs. 4 of them? You are good to 300 lbs.


http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-...51#.UHHWla7DtM8


Edited by mapatton (10/07/12 03:28 PM)
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