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#383984 - 10/11/12 08:55 AM First 11.1 channel Bluray announced
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For those who might care (or can stomach the film), it looks like The Expendibles will be the first 11.1 channel DTS Neo:X equipped film you can try out.
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#383987 - 10/11/12 09:59 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is 'ULTRAVIOLET' that is branded on the casing of this disc? I have not seen that term in context of blu-ray before.
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#383988 - 10/11/12 10:06 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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you'll find an answer here:
http://www.blu-ray.com/uv/?action=faq
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#383990 - 10/11/12 10:14 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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Originally Posted By: Murph
For those who might care (or can stomach the film), it looks like The Expendibles will be the first 11.1 channel DTS Neo:X equipped film you can try out.


When I saw the first Expendables I had very low expectations but it turned out I enjoyed it much to my surprise. So I'll give the 2 a shot.
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#383992 - 10/11/12 10:29 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Boltron]
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The reason it's enjoyable is because you know it's completely over the top and the actors are just having fun with it.
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#383995 - 10/11/12 10:43 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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Ultraviolet is sort of like a bad word for a lot of movie "collectors" since you must be connected up to the internet and are limited to that network connection to determine your playback enjoyment level since it streams across the internet instead of downloading to a mobile/portable device like other digital copies.

As for 11.1, I honestly can't believe that they picked The Expendables 2 for the first release of it. I've seen The Expendables (not #2), and it was cheesy with the action and effects, yet some points were fun for the sheer craziness of it. They are both "niche" movies in my mind. I would have thought that something else would have been a better choice. Even Dolby used a Disney flick (Brave) to show off their Atmos system. While a lot of people don't care much about animation or Disney movies, it is a movie genre that more people would at least "tolerate" to experience the new sound.
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#383998 - 10/11/12 11:18 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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So I did some price checking and a receiver capable of 11.1 output and DTS Neo:X decoding will set you back about $2200 - $3000 depending on model and store purchased from.

Plus add the upgrade in wiring and additional speakers up front (even the lower cost M2 in wall or on wall speakers), and you've got a pretty quick $2950 - $3750 upgrade just to hear the over-the-top effects in Expendables 2. Sure, other movies will eventually follow, but look how long it has taken to see movies coming out with good 7.1 mixes. They have just started to become *almost* the standard over the last couple of months.

It will be a long time before I upgrade to something more than my 7.1 setup. Prices will really have to drop on the receivers, but I also fear that I won't go with M2s should that day come. Someone will convince me that M22s are best and that is even more money.

By then, Dolby Atmos will be available for your home, and we will start setting up arrays of speakers in the ceiling too.

So maybe 7 speakers up front, 4 surrounds, and 6 or more overhead. Throw in a couple of subs, and it could be awesome, but expensive with a 17.2 DTS Neo:X / Atmos Home system. Axoim would have to start advertising some sort of "in-ceiling" speaker or something too. Crazy.

I would need to build a new house and have them dig down an extra 2 feet in the theater area to make room for everything.

At some point, the extra channels just don't make sense from a practical installation standpoint, let alone a price/performance point too.
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#383999 - 10/11/12 11:32 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: pmbuko]
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Originally Posted By: pmbuko
The reason it's enjoyable is because you know it's completely over the top and the actors are just having fun with it.


Yep that's about it. Lot's of explosions and stuff. It's in my "eye and ear candy" category.
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#384000 - 10/11/12 11:44 AM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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I just read that the room size for an 11.1 setup should be at least 20 feet by 30 feet (with a recommended height of at least 9 feet)! Wow! 600+ sq ft (5400 cubic feet) MINIMUM and that is for 1 row of seats!

Funny that the DTS Neo:X will also be available for cars too since they say that it needs a massive space to truly be effective, and yet they are going to cram it into a 115 cubic foot car cabin vs. the 5400 cubic feet that they say is needed at home.
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#384007 - 10/11/12 12:47 PM Re: First 11.1 channel Bluray announced [Re: Murph]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Loc: Some random location
When I first saw the word ultraviolet on the disc covers, I was wondering why they were always giving away the Ultraviolet movie with each one of them. I already had the movie.

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