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#394229 - 06/17/13 02:27 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Loc: Fredericksburg, Virginia
I previously used an Outlaw 990 preamp with an Outlaw 7125 amplifier. For a while I held out hope that Now I have an Onkyo HT-RC370 receiver that I use as a processor feeding the same amp.
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#394233 - 06/17/13 03:52 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
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Registered: 02/06/09
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Loc: Western Maryland, USA
I would go as far as to say, buy the AVR with the features that you want, just make sure it has pre-outs. Try running like that, and if you don't get the volume levels that you desire, then add the external amp.
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#394234 - 06/17/13 04:13 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
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Registered: 11/29/06
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Loc: Alpharetta, GA
I am running an Emotiva pre/pro and 7-channel amp connecting via XLR's, including the sub out from the pre/pro.
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#394236 - 06/17/13 04:46 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: medic8r]
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Looks like I forgot to finish a thought as I was editing a post:

Originally Posted By: medic8r
I previously used an Outlaw 990 preamp with an Outlaw 7125 amplifier. For a while I held out hope that ...

... Outlaw would release a new pre-pro with "HD audio" support (Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio), but that thing was delayed so long that for an upgrade to the 990 I went with an AVR, which, as many have noted, is in most people's eyes (ears?) sufficient for the task.
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#394247 - 06/17/13 10:04 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
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Aegis, welcome. I think that the point is that there's no need to spend time and money looking for a "great" preamp-processor. The receivers available at moderate cost have those functions done as well as is necessary for use with separate amplifiers. In addition, as Chris mentioned, having the receiver available allows making a determination as to whether its internal amplifier is sufficient for the job, making the question of a spending money on a separate amplifier moot.
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#394251 - 06/17/13 10:36 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
dakkon Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 1846
Since were on this topic.

What do you guys think about the

Emotiva XMC-1 vs the Marantz AV8801?

I am looking for a new processor, and don't think i want to go with another Krell.. The other brands have way more options, and i dont think the Krell brand is worth the extra cash for their processors...

One of the "must haves" for me is XLR outs.. I can not use RCA's due to the electrical wiring in my house, i get interference if i use RCA's...

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#394252 - 06/17/13 10:45 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13340
Loc: Iowa
You might also consider the Outlaw 975, getting rave reviews at half the price as the Emo, but I'm partial to Outlaw. smile Recently Sound and Vision Magezine gave it a great review saying it can hold its own to preamp/processors costing 2-3 times its price.. at $549 killer price.

http://outlawaudio.com/products/975.html
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#394253 - 06/17/13 10:52 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
dakkon Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
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I was just looking the Marantz MM7701 may be better for me. I have a 5.1 setup.. and i don't need 11 pre-outs.. The only difference i can see between the 8801 and the 7701 is that the 8801 has Audyssey MultEQXT32 where the 7701 has Audyssey MultEQXT. Minus the 32... Is that a very big difference? big enough to justify 2X the cost for my purposes?


I'll look at the outlaw in a minute. Thanks.

The outlaw doesn't have XLR outs, only RCA's...


Edited by dakkon (06/17/13 10:54 PM)

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#394388 - 06/20/13 08:43 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13340
Loc: Iowa
If that is important, then your right.
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#394524 - 06/24/13 12:40 PM Re: what control amplifier (Preamp) do Axiom users use [Re: Aegis]
cohesion Offline
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Registered: 03/27/12
Posts: 219
Loc: Maple, Ontario, Canada
FWIW I have an older Parasound Halo C2. It doesn't decode HD audio but I get around that by using the multichannel inputs with decoding done in an Oppo BDP95. This gives me XLRs and a very good setup overall. However I will eventually upgrade to a more modern unit. I agree that for audio quality alone there is probably little difference between this and a good quality AVR.

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