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#397181 - 09/18/13 09:18 PM I-Wall M22 Center?
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I sent Amie a PM on several topics including the above Q and I guess she's MIA for the moment, so here goes: Anyone know if an M22 In-Wall can be configured in a W-T-W configuration? We're putting in-walls in the new house and I love symmetry, so the choice is M3 L/R and M100 Center - As in-Walls they all have the same physical dimensions, but the center would be missing some low end. If the M22 can be configured as WTW, I'd have both physical and acoustic symmetry.
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#397182 - 09/18/13 09:43 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: a401classic]
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I'd like to hear M22's.


Edited by brwsaw (09/18/13 10:18 PM)
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#397183 - 09/18/13 09:46 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: a401classic]
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Scott, what does "configured" imply in your question? As you know, the M22 is a T/W/W design.
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#397186 - 09/18/13 10:06 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: JohnK]
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yep, but could it be configured in WTW as a horizontal center? My initial thought was no, but I had to ask. I figured the W's were in the same chamber to develop a lower bottom end.
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#397189 - 09/18/13 10:35 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: a401classic]
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That would be a significant redesign and I doubt that Axiom would consider it. Besides the different enclosure, presumably the crossover would also be modified because of the different dispersion pattern.

Are three vertical M22 in-walls not feasible?
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#397196 - 09/19/13 11:39 AM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: JohnK]
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Unfortunately this is for use with a 41" flat screen over a fireplace, so no vertical center. Talk about a sore neck! As it is I'm contemplating inverting the L and R speakers to get the tweeters lower, especially if I end up with M22's. At that they will still be well over the tops of heads while seated.

But, from a very reliable source wink

"Quote:The VP100 is the same drivers and crossover as the M22; it is just in a more square-ish rear box in order to maintain a width that will fit between the studs. For the highest amount of symmetry I would go with M22 in-walls and a VP100 in-wall."
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#397200 - 09/19/13 01:10 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: a401classic]
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Question for anyone willing to answer, would 3 VP100's be detrimental/not recommended?
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#397207 - 09/19/13 10:42 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: brwsaw]
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To the greatest extent possible, vertically oriented front speakers should be used for wide and smooth horizontal dispersion. If space available makes a vertical center unfeasible, a combination such as the vertical M22 mains with a VP100 center, which Scott mentions, should be satisfactory.
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#397218 - 09/20/13 02:09 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: a401classic]
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So, Scott, what you really want is a ported VP100. I agree with John's assessment.

FWIW, I had been using a regular VP100 as a center for a long time and I replaced it with a vertical M2, which I like a little better. It seems a little clearer and it plays a little deeper. Since I don't need the horizontal form-factor or high output, it works well for me.
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#397222 - 09/20/13 04:21 PM Re: I-Wall M22 Center? [Re: a401classic]
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Something else to consider with speakers, especially M22's, mounted above the TV (or beside the TV, up high.) Having both above and below the TV, I found they sound the best throughout the room with the M22's facing flat forward, tweeters at the top. Although this cuts off some tweeter action in the room, it is better than when I had the speakers tilted downward. If you were in the back of the room, you'd hear too much tweeter, and the sound got worse on the ears because of it.

Just something else to consider.

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