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#399864 - 01/10/14 08:48 AM M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are
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Ian, Alan or Andrew

Now that we have the great M100's and a upgraded version of the M60/80's, are there any plans to make the M22's a upgrade ?

if they can't be whynot create and develop a high end Bookshelf that will rival the M80's or exceed them in the mid high end area ?
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#399883 - 01/10/14 01:53 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Didn't you bring this up in your discussion about floor standing vs. bookshelf? Alan pretty much answered this HERE about an hour after you posted this.
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#399884 - 01/10/14 01:56 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: nickbuol]
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that post was a couple days ago. and ha I missed that post all together. dang
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#399915 - 01/10/14 09:56 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Yeah, Troy; as Alan commented in the other thread, the M22 isn't in need of an "upgrade". In particular the mid-range is handled by the same two 5 1/4" drivers as in the M80, and is superb in quality.
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#399918 - 01/10/14 10:36 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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yes, I see that post now, Alan must of been replying same time as I created this post.

anyways. as many have mentioned and even Alan if I can ever find the post.

the M80 are better at handling the mids and highs over the M22's. that's one reason for getting the M80's, other than the bottom end.

All I am saying is why not try to get the M22 to rival the M80 in the mids and highs, And it can be done. And the M22 can be improved. Yes they are a great speaker, I know that.

Case in point, I also had the M&K 750 and I am sorry but, I would blind test them anyday against the M22 and they will come out on top. Not against the M80's though , but I bet if your talking mids and Highs about 80 hz they would rival the M80.
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#399920 - 01/10/14 10:54 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
yes, I see that post now, Alan must of been replying same time as I created this post.

anyways. as many have mentioned and even Alan if I can ever find the post.

the M80 are better at handling the mids and highs over the M22's. that's one reason for getting the M80's, other than the bottom end.

All I am saying is why not try to get the M22 to rival the M80 in the mids and highs, And it can be done. And the M22 can be improved. Yes they are a great speaker, I know that.

Case in point, I also had the M&K 750 and I am sorry but, I would blind test them anyday against the M22 and they will come out on top. Not against the M80's though , but I bet if your talking mids and Highs about 80 hz they would rival the M80.



I look forward to Alan's response though I think he pretty much covered this in the other thread. The MK's are 4x the price, hardly an apple to apple comparison. I would hope they sounded better though at double the price I would expect them to sound 4x as good grin Im not nitpicking here, just voicing an opinion. I wish I could just go audition speakers for a living or even for fun, I hate being so remote. But alas my hearing is shot so everything sounds good to me. cool
One thing I am sure of is that everyone has their own preference in speakers and what sounds good to them. This is a great time to be alive, what with all the choices we have in just speakers alone.

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#399922 - 01/10/14 11:52 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Yep.

Now, what about those new subs?
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#399924 - 01/11/14 08:37 AM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: brwsaw]
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What was the upgrade from V2 to V3 on the M60's? I have the M60's V2 and wonder why they would have needed an upgrade?


Edited by Argon (01/11/14 08:38 AM)
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#399936 - 01/11/14 05:18 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
yes, I see that post now, Alan must of been replying same time as I created this post.

anyways. as many have mentioned and even Alan if I can ever find the post.

the M80 are better at handling the mids and highs over the M22's. that's one reason for getting the M80's, other than the bottom end.

All I am saying is why not try to get the M22 to rival the M80 in the mids and highs, And it can be done. And the M22 can be improved. Yes they are a great speaker, I know that.

Case in point, I also had the M&K 750 and I am sorry but, I would blind test them anyday against the M22 and they will come out on top. Not against the M80's though , but I bet if your talking mids and Highs about 80 hz they would rival the M80.



I look forward to Alan's response though I think he pretty much covered this in the other thread. The MK's are 4x the price, hardly an apple to apple comparison. I would hope they sounded better though at double the price I would expect them to sound 4x as good grin Im not nitpicking here, just voicing an opinion. I wish I could just go audition speakers for a living or even for fun, I hate being so remote. But alas my hearing is shot so everything sounds good to me. cool
One thing I am sure of is that everyone has their own preference in speakers and what sounds good to them. This is a great time to be alive, what with all the choices we have in just speakers alone.

Richad


I paid $1300 for my MK's hardly 4x's

and as I said two or three posts above you He must of replying same time I created this post two days later.

And as I said in the same post ,Alan has mentioned before, and so have a few others, the M22 does not have the same Mid and High capabilities as the M80's.

Holy crap, all I was saying was now the the M80 and M60s have been improved on why not the M22's

I guess they are just the best damn bookshelf speakers ever made, Eh ?

I do respect what Alan said and says, I am not saying to make a $4000 bookshelf. I am not saying others are not over priced. But , if the M80 were such a great speaker too why did they bother to look at improving them ?

Hell, if companies stopped looking for ways to improve there products, them they soon disappear and get left behind

Sorry, forgot once you make a comment and get a reply your spose to eccept it and shutup and move on. So I will

PS and if you ready a bit of the other post, I said why not make and develop a bookshelf speaker the is equivalent in the midrange and highend as the M80 and even if it cost $1500. still less than half the $4000


Edited by troyd (01/11/14 05:25 PM)
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#399939 - 01/11/14 05:22 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: Argon]
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Originally Posted By: Argon
What was the upgrade from V2 to V3 on the M60's? I have the M60's V2 and wonder why they would have needed an upgrade?


pretty sure it was the driver was and cross over. But, hey
obviously according to some here, they are now at the best and won't need to upgrade anymore.
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