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#399978 - 01/11/14 10:44 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: Socketman
Well I guess time will tell. Perhaps they will listen. I see you have M80;s now , are you planning to down size?

Richard


Heck no, I love my M80's however I am trying to decide right now if an upgrade to the M100's is warranted. be an extra $1100, So not sure I will get an extra $1000 worth of sound quality. Not many are posting if they are that much better.

No, I am thinking either keeping the M80/100 up in my living room or setting up a dual system in the movie room. The M80/100 will be sub less and for music/music video. And the bookshelf setup for home theatre.

I live music with the towers and no sub. I like the sound stage and bottom end coming from the stage where it is spose to. I don't care for over exaggerated bass in music either.

However, after finding out the M22 are at there best, I thinking now I am going back to the MK speakers or the new K Kreisel.

I love my Axiom and brag the shit out of them specially to my brother who thinks the Definate Tech he got at Future shop is better than the M80's.
And yes, sorry Alan et all, but I have/had bother the MK750 and the M22, and the MK are $750 ec and the sound stage, detail, clarity are just that much better ... for me.
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#399979 - 01/11/14 10:46 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: brwsaw]
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Originally Posted By: brwsaw
Originally Posted By: troyd
I am not saying they are not a great speaker and at a great price.
just that they have made improvements in all the towers.
I have heard about how the M80's rival over the M22 in the mids and highs.
Whaynot try to, never mind try to I know they can improve the m22. I don't think even at a $1000 they would be over priced. If of course the quality is there and sound performance. I want a M22 that is comparable to the M80, from 80hz - 20,000. I want to her they have a bookshelf that in the mid to high is just as good as the M80


Have you considered Bryston's Mini T bookshelf speakers?

At $4000 nope
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#399981 - 01/11/14 10:48 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
I don't remember anybody credible ever saying that the M80's produced "better" highs and midrange than the M22. Can you cite examples?


I am going to search and I will find you more than one also.

Just need a bit of time
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#399982 - 01/11/14 10:53 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Decisions Decisions Decisions >> This hobby is too damn addictive. Need the electronics version of AA. Audioholics Anonymous smile

As an aside, for your brother his DefTechs may sound better to him. My buddy has Mission speakers and he loves them to death , they sound ok but not my favorite but that's ok, he is happy and that's what counts.

I wonder how the MK's would stack up against the Model T's. I did provide a link for a set at 1900.00 that's a good savings imho.

If Axiom built a bookshelf for 1500 I wonder what they would sound like. That's almost as much as the M80's you love. Perhaps a bookshelf with 2 tweeters and 2mids and a woof.
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#399984 - 01/11/14 11:39 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Well, I don't know they developed a better woofer and crossover for the M60/80's

Currently the M33 have two 5.25 maybe play with the speaker cabinat a bit, create a 5.75 or 6" driver and do some work on the crossover.

Maybe not so much as to allow the speaker to go lower, but maybe give it a more solid bass.
Yeh, it would be curious to hear those Mini's

be nice to compare those s to the M22. But, then I guess the M22 are already as good. As as mentioned before ...
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#399985 - 01/12/14 12:20 AM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: Socketman]
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[quote=Socketman]Decisions Decisions Decisions >> This hobby is too damn addictive. Need the electronics version of AA. Audioholics Anonymous smile


Axiom Anonymous..;)
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#399986 - 01/12/14 12:27 AM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: brwsaw]
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Originally Posted By: brwsaw
[quote=Socketman]Decisions Decisions Decisions >> This hobby is too damn addictive. Need the electronics version of AA. Audioholics Anonymous smile


Axiom Anonymous..;)


that would work
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#399988 - 01/12/14 12:34 AM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
Well, I don't know they developed a better woofer and crossover for the M60/80's

Currently the M33 have two 5.25 maybe play with the speaker cabinat a bit, create a 5.75 or 6" driver and do some work on the crossover.

Maybe not so much as to allow the speaker to go lower, but maybe give it a more solid bass.
Yeh, it would be curious to hear those Mini's

be nice to compare those s to the M22. But, then I guess the M22 are already as good. As as mentioned before ...



There are plenty of 'Me Too' speakers out there. Its all about marketing and all manufacturers try to differentiate themselves from the competition. That's why all cars are different, if I don't like what Toyota has then I buy from the car company that has what I want. As far as speakers go, continuity is only necessary for the front 3. I am not trying to argue with you here, since I made some noise myself about them producing a conventional 3 way and since its their business I chose to build my own using their drivers.
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#399989 - 01/12/14 03:44 AM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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troy:

I have 2 separate systems comprised of M2s (music only) & M22s (HT). Each of the 'M' speakers have their own sub (2 per system) that are positioned with each sat.

Rest assured: 'the sound stage and bottom end is coming from the stage where it is spose to'. As for exaggerated bass, I agree wholeheartedly; however, it is just so easy to dial in the bass level where you want it.

During my auditioning odyssey, I quickly came to the realization that my small sats + subs out performed any affordable towers of various brands (especially in bass response) that I auditioned. The sat + sub form factor works brilliantly for me...

TAM

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#400001 - 01/12/14 05:21 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: exlabdriver]
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I searched for like an hr last night then at 1 am I had to crash. Had to get up third day in a row at 6 to take my daughter to her Provincial Soccer sessions.

Then on our 1.5 hr drive I was thinking, and got to thinking about another post I made a yr or two ago. In that why do people buy towers if they set the receivers to small.

and now I will find them.

Yes, that's why. I was thinking to separate systems. Everyone goes on about low frequencies are Omni directional and just there, like all around. That's ok for movies, but if I am watching a music video or listening to music I don't want the subs on. A) because it over exaggerates plus lower frequencies come from the front, that's where the band is, heck the bass player is not behind me or the kick drum isn't in a different area. So , having towers with go bass and the way I like it. Coming from where I think the band is.
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