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#400183 - 01/17/14 01:32 PM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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#400189 - 01/17/14 02:08 PM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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Please. Sorry about the tweeter comment. I was just surmising in a whimsical way. I guess you have to get used to me then put me on ignore like most others here do. lol.

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#400191 - 01/17/14 02:29 PM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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I wasn't trying to be absurd with my tweeter comment, but just trying to give an example at the extreme opposite end. I find it easier to picture what small differences appear because of small changes, by visualizing what happens to a system as it's taken to the limit.
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#400225 - 01/19/14 04:49 PM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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talking about subs... I like this listening test that was done back in 2005... Lab test results ep500 & pb12 plus
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#400229 - 01/20/14 01:09 AM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: JBG]
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As an aside, can I use a powered 12" sub that is of a different brand, and is quite old, and an EP 500 to smooth out the bass frequencies in a room or would it be best to stick with the EP 500 (2 EP's are out of the question)?

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#400231 - 01/20/14 06:57 AM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: Captain4105]
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Sure Lee, it can at least be tried. The best results from using two subs to partially cancel room modes(e.g., by locating them at the midpoints of the opposing side walls)are achieved when the two subs have essentially identical response at the mode frequencies. However, as long as they each have some response at a given frequency, partial results can be obtained and an overall improvement achieved.
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#400267 - 01/22/14 02:30 AM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: JohnK]
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That is good news...thank you John. I can easily adjust the frequency crossover on the subwoofer's amp. It is quite sophisticated for its time ('79). Another question I have is the application of two sub's to my main entertainment medium...music, and more specifically, as you know John, classical. I would rarely use the system for movies, although once I set up a 5.1 or 5.2 system I may be tempted to watch movies with the system. I am guessing that having two sub's would be less of a necessity for music than for movies, and for now I could not place the sub's properly for the best effect, and they would not match each other as pieces of furniture. If you could comment on that it would help me to decide what to do. Thanks

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#400271 - 01/22/14 09:53 AM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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I was thinking the same thing as I currently have two ESW10's which would be great for in the rear. I can then use two EP500 up front or an EP800. but thought that the two ESW10 would not be as good and mess up the sound qaulity
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#400273 - 01/22/14 10:12 AM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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In my experience (just me moving stuff around, changing settings 100,000 times) more subs are better even if they don't match.
At the moment I have a 12",10" and 8" sitting where each sounds its best. Sort of a staggered triage in my room. I'd add the fourth (second 10") but I can't find a way to get it here for a reasonable cost.
Of course having identical subs would be ideal but isn't always an option.


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#400280 - 01/22/14 11:16 AM Re: Ok so another sub question how many [Re: TroyD]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
I was thinking the same thing as I currently have two ESW10's which would be great for in the rear.

Today's (juvenile) out-of-context quote.
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