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#401069 - 02/15/14 06:34 AM new M100 review from enjoy the music
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Review of the M100 from enjoy the misic

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#401073 - 02/15/14 09:06 AM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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This review flew over my head. I must be getting old.
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#401074 - 02/15/14 12:31 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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The first speaker to come up on Google under "Carmel" has, according to the first website I found with a price, a $18,000.00 price tag.

http://ultraaudio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99:yg-acoustics-carmel-loudspeakers&catid=37:full-length-reviews&Itemid=2

I didn't like the tone of the review(until the end), I am biased.


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#401075 - 02/15/14 02:21 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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Overall a decent review and the writer is quite good at fence sitting.On one hand you could ask why would you put the M100 against a $18g set of speakers, on the other you have to wonder what else they should compare them to. I am no audiophile, I don't pick music apart in the same way the author does. I think given the price difference the M100 stood up pretty well. The only problem I have with the review is that the author somehow believes he can recall what taj mahal sounded like in a certain venue years ago, honestly. The author's electronics speak to his eccentricity as a whole. He believes wires etc affect the sound,and as such maybe the axioms required a different wire combination than what he was using. I still put this in the win column.

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#401090 - 02/15/14 07:54 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: Socketman
Overall a decent review and the writer is quite good at fence sitting.On one hand you could ask why would you put the M100 against a $18g set of speakers, on the other you have to wonder what else they should compare them to. I am no audiophile, I don't pick music apart in the same way the author does. I think given the price difference the M100 stood up pretty well. The only problem I have with the review is that the author somehow believes he can recall what taj mahal sounded like in a certain venue years ago, honestly. The author's electronics speak to his eccentricity as a whole. He believes wires etc affect the sound,and as such maybe the axioms required a different wire combination than what he was using. I still put this in the win column.

richard


In all honesty, I am actually quite impressed that this reviewer did a review comparing speakers in which there was an enormous difference in cost between the two and if I was the owner of this other speaker company(Carmel), I don't think I would be too pleased. One usually never sees this type of head to head comparison. I think even the reviewer was surprised at the outcome and that was despite his little quirks in what he liked and didn't like about the sound of either. As we all know, the reviewers of so-called high-end(high priced) products, with no exceptions, usually always justify the differences by the cost and speakers costing considerably less, in their mind, would just not match up. It is all essentially long term brainwashing. Reviews like this sort of throw a monkey wrench in to that idea and it is long overdue.

I dunno, but if I was looking to buy speakers and even if money was no object, after reading this review, I certainly would still have to question why it would be necessary to spend 18Gs on a pair of speakers when I could buy a pair of M100s even in a custom finish and get similar performance for a fraction of the price.





Edited by casey01 (02/15/14 08:00 PM)

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#401091 - 02/15/14 08:07 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: casey01]
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Originally Posted By: casey01
Originally Posted By: Socketman
Overall a decent review and the writer is quite good at fence sitting.On one hand you could ask why would you put the M100 against a $18g set of speakers, on the other you have to wonder what else they should compare them to. I am no audiophile, I don't pick music apart in the same way the author does. I think given the price difference the M100 stood up pretty well. The only problem I have with the review is that the author somehow believes he can recall what taj mahal sounded like in a certain venue years ago, honestly. The author's electronics speak to his eccentricity as a whole. He believes wires etc affect the sound,and as such maybe the axioms required a different wire combination than what he was using. I still put this in the win column.

richard


In all honesty, I am actually quite impressed that this reviewer did a review comparing speakers in which there was an enormous difference in cost between the two and if I was the owner of this other speaker company(Carmel), I don't think I would be too pleased. One usually never sees this type of head to head comparison. I think even the reviewer was surprised at the outcome and that was despite his little quirks in what he liked and didn't like about the sound of either. As we all know, the reviewers of so-called high-end(high priced) products, with no exceptions, usually always justify the differences by the cost and speakers costing considerably less, in their mind, would just not match up. It is all essentially long term brainwashing. Reviews like this sort of throw a monkey wrench in to that idea and it is long overdue.

I dunno, but if I was looking to buy speakers and even if money was no object, after reading this review, I certainly would still have to question why it would be necessary to spend 18Gs on a pair of speakers when I could buy a pair of M100s even in a custom finish and get similar performance for a fraction of the price.





Edzachary. Speakers should be heard and not seen at the beginning of a review so the reviewer doesn't portray his beliefs/first impressions on to the speaker he is reviewing.
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#401096 - 02/15/14 11:17 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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From reading his equipment list, it's apparent that this is a reviewer who's a believer in high-priced magic amplifiers, players and even pieces of connecting wire. It shouldn't be surprising that he claims to hear superiority in many respects when listening to a much higher-priced speaker under open(non-blind)listening conditions.

Such reports shouldn't be taken seriously when not done in blind listening sessions.
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#401118 - 02/16/14 04:22 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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Seen that this guy in his review has the speakers 30 inches from the rear wall & using all rear port plugs...

what is your setup with the m100's? I have mine 10 inches from the rear walls and 6 inches from side walls, slightly toed in, 10 feet apart and haven't experimented with the port plugs yet.
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#401122 - 02/16/14 05:45 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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Registered: 03/23/10
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YG makes speakers that are 2 meters tall and cost over $125k.

Why not compare it to the new PSB T2 for $3.4k?

Or how about lots of other <$12k speakers?

It's just dumb.

Please don't be impressed with anyone just because they can compose a complete sentence, have a few "vocab" words to throw about, and can easily make a 2500 word piece outta nothing by going into mind-numbing detail about instrumental nuances that may occur for 4 seconds out of an entire LP.

As soon as any audio review gets into the endless paragraphs that begin with, "...and then I listened to," I can only get so far, then I get tired.

We're not impressed with anyone else's "collection," nor do we generally trust most experts-at-anything who have such catholic tastes as to include everything from the Baroque through The Vaccines.

And if the banjo sounds "closed in," what does one sound like when it's "let out?"
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#401124 - 02/16/14 05:52 PM Re: new M100 review from enjoy the music [Re: JBG]
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Originally Posted By: BobKay
Please don't be impressed with anyone just because they can compose a complete sentence, have a few "vocab" words to throw about, and can easily make a 2500 word piece outta nothing by going into mind-numbing detail


Does this mean I should stop reading all of your posts?

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