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#405225 - 06/08/14 05:24 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
Nitsud Offline
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Registered: 05/08/11
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Loc: Canada
I do listen in multichannel would be no reason if only with the towers right. Good call with waiting to see how it sounds with the 1500. Will the upgrade option be available indefinitely now, as the 1500 may be close to a year away

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#405227 - 06/08/14 05:29 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
JBG Offline
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I just upgraded my VP180 v3 (it was only a few months old)to v4 HP. I noticed an improvement quality of the bass, more linear, less muddy sounding and better match to the M100's especially at a higher volume level. I mostly listen to multichannel sources. BTW the M100's are superb speaker..

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#405228 - 06/08/14 05:33 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
Nitsud Offline
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Registered: 05/08/11
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Loc: Canada
JBG

Thank you for that info. I was leading towards that. My setup is used as a family setup. So the room it's is is completely open so the lack of bass is a big deal. Hearing that there is a noticeable difference this is good. Then when I get the new amp it can only get better from there.


Edited by Nitsud (06/08/14 05:36 PM)

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#405229 - 06/08/14 05:44 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
JBG Offline
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The differences aren't huge but paired with the m100 with a powerful amp in higher volume levels the differences are definitely audible, when I listen to action movies and to live concert dvd's I notice a difference (A/B them together with room correction done on each 180 version)

After experimentation I needed to tone down the bass of the 100's with a port plug in each tower

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#405230 - 06/08/14 05:53 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: JBG]
Nitsud Offline
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Registered: 05/08/11
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Loc: Canada
I suppose it boils down to the upgrade cost for the vp180. If it's too much I'd rather put that towards the amp and be happier till I can upgrade the center?

With that any ideas or info for me I should just buy buy the amp now and then get the new m100s and vp180 later?


Edited by Nitsud (06/08/14 05:56 PM)

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#405231 - 06/08/14 05:56 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
JBG Offline
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Registered: 06/14/02
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that's whats nice with axiom and the new upgrade program...

many possibilities, with the chance to better your setup, not many speaker companies offer this...

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#405232 - 06/08/14 05:58 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
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I only have funds for 1 route at the moment

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#405234 - 06/08/14 06:21 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: exlabdriver]
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Originally Posted By: exlabdriver
Matt:

From what I've been reading on the net over the past year from many so-called 'experts', the content to the CC in most movie mixes in the past couple of years has shifted away from just mostly dialogue to much heavier & complex content. Some say 70 - 80% now comes from the CC with the L & R Channels idling much of the time.

Based on this, I was able to justify in my own mind upgrading from a VP100 that performed very well to the much more capable & outstanding VP160. I'm glad that I did...

TAM


I don't believe that they have shifted anything away from the L & R channels, but rather started to put more than just dialogue voice into the center to give it more fill. But all that said, the bulk of dynamic sound still comes from the left and right.

Congratulations on getting a much better speaker for your Center. But I would not call the comparison of your move from a VP100 to VP160 as being a simple version update. Those two speakers are sonically miles apart. Sort of like going from a Porche Boxter to a 911 Turbo. Same company, but totally different beasts.

As for the upgrade program. I believe that if you waited for an extra year, you will get less back for your current v3 speaker than if you did the upgrade right now.

As others have said, if you are listening to something that is very demanding on the center channel at high volumes, such as 5.1 music, then you will get additional benefit from upgrading your center channel to the newer version. But, you might also get an equal bump from upgrading your amp if the one you have doesn't have the true power to fully drive the 4ohm speaker. I have also been told that you can get far more bang for the dollars spent in adjusting yor acoustics.

There is no hard fast rule to any of this.


Edited by oakvillematt (06/08/14 06:30 PM)
Edit Reason: your receiver should be able to handle the 4ohm center
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#405235 - 06/08/14 06:21 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
cohesion Offline
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Registered: 03/27/12
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Loc: Maple, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Nitsud
I do listen in multichannel would be no reason if only with the towers right. Good call with waiting to see how it sounds with the 1500. Will the upgrade option be available indefinitely now, as the 1500 may be close to a year away


As I understand it the upgrade program is here to stay. However the credit calculator may take the age of your old stuff into consideration. You may want to call or email Axiom and ask about that.

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#405245 - 06/08/14 11:06 PM Re: Vp180 v3 vs vp180 v4 [Re: Nitsud]
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Registered: 09/07/11
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Matt:

Huh? I upgraded from the VP100V3 to the VP160V3 solely due to being more able to handle the more complex content now found in the CC mixes. V3 to V3 - no version change...

TAM

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