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Re: sells
Canesfan27 #442757 06/30/21 06:39 PM
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M3s just shipped. If the amp goes out this week I'll be in business. I'll probably add a 1000 for the outdoor speakers down the line.


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Re: sells
Canesfan27 #442758 06/30/21 07:20 PM
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It may be interesting for you to place the Algonquins by the M100s and compare.


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Canesfan27 #442759 06/30/21 09:14 PM
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I did that with the m5s and qs10s. In a smaller room the m5s would be highly efficient as fronts. I have some stands I can test the m3s on.


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M3 In Ceiling x 4
M5OW
M2 - Atmos rears
ADA1500.5
M3 Outdoor Speakers
ADA 1000.8
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Canesfan27 #442760 06/30/21 10:05 PM
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I used M5s in my 4200 cu ft room to replace M80v2. They were 12 feet apart with MLP 14 to 15 feet away depending on how far I reclined. With the 800, they were killer pornosonic holographers.

Then I went to M100v4 and gained greater fidelity in instrument and vocal realism at the expense of loss of total acoustic disappearance. I know your experience is different and you get it all in your room with your M100s. I needed active LFRs to have it all in my demon-ridden space.


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Canesfan27 #442780 07/04/21 06:38 PM
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These m3s are extremely impressive. Surprising mid bass being outside.


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M2 - Atmos rears
ADA1500.5
M3 Outdoor Speakers
ADA 1000.8
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Re: sells
Canesfan27 #442783 07/04/21 11:35 PM
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Great that you like them. Not sure how they sound compared to the M3s. Unless Axiom changed the design, the M3 has a more sophisticated cross-over. It also has a published frequency response and impedance curve. So not sure the fidelity, soundstage and imaging is similar. These aspects are probably not as critical for most in the intended application. Surely not when you mount them side-ways.

Did you compare them against the M100?


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Canesfan27 #442797 07/06/21 02:35 PM
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I did not set them up inside yet but they are so easy to take down that I will. We were having a 4th of July get together so I wanted to have them set up outside. I do like that the Denon receiver allows me to switch between mono and stereo in zone2 without have to wire them in parallel. I have them mounted 18 feet apart 9 feet high and angled slightly downward. They sound great in mono and stereo but if you are standing anywhere in between them stereo is better. Once I go beyond the boundary of the speakers mono works best. I still want to add another 2 on the other half of the patio and then I'll wire the two on the right together and the two on the left together and see how they sound in stereo when I'm out in the pool area. I may end up having to run mono with all 4 hooked up. It's definitely something I will have to experiment with.


LFR1100
VP180HP
EP600
M3 In Ceiling x 4
M5OW
M2 - Atmos rears
ADA1500.5
M3 Outdoor Speakers
ADA 1000.8
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Mojo #442810 07/09/21 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Great that you like them. Not sure how they sound compared to the M3s. Unless Axiom changed the design, the M3 has a more sophisticated cross-over. It also has a published frequency response and impedance curve. So not sure the fidelity, soundstage and imaging is similar. These aspects are probably not as critical for most in the intended application. Surely not when you mount them side-ways.

Did you compare them against the M100?

I thought the M3s do not have a crossover, just a resistor and cap to protect the tweeter from a full range signal. The mechanical roll off of the 6.5" driver gives the M3s their unique sonic charm. Maybe the new ones have a crossover.


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Re: sells
Mojo #442849 07/18/21 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Be careful with that 1500 or you'll be smelling M100.

I bet the m100’s can take it. I remember that clip in the video of an axiom factory tour with a single channel ADA trying to kill some poor floorstander. If a pair of m100 can’t take it then what is the intended application of a single channel ada1500?

Didn’t you try a 1500 with m100’s at some point before your buddy stole them from you?

Axiom should advertise how much “abuse” their products can take.


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Re: sells
Canesfan27 #442850 07/19/21 12:39 AM
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I sure did. I was smelling voice coil and adhesive. At 14 feet away, that was 109dBC peaks and likely more because I doubt my meter was capturing the real peaks.

Axiom does a very good job of spec'ing what their products can take. They quote a continuous rating and a peak which is 4 times continuous. The M100 is good for 400W continuous and 1600W peak. Axiom also publishes sensitivity which is very accurate up to the peak power rating.

A single channel 1500 can source 650W continuous into 4 Ohms across the audible range. In typical applications, you'll go deaf before damaging them but you can smell them nonetheless.

The 1500 was made to funnel as much of the AC wall power as possible into a set of speakers using the latest MOSFET technology. The 1500 can maximize the SPL from the triple HP drivers in the active LFRs. In my living room, I could feel my rib cage compress and I got heart palpitations from the actives without being anywhere close to cranked (-15 on my Pioneer).


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