Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions Talk me out of it….Pulling the trigger…

No room correction or bass management in those products. Apps are limited too. I think the CA unit doesn't come with any.

I wouldn't say any particular amplifier class is more analytical than another. I don't even know what analytical means with regard to amplifier classes. I don't think any designer sets off to design a more or less analytical audio amplifier.

You’re probably right. Maybe I’m drinking the YouTube reviewer koolaid. Who knows.

I do know when I hooked up brothers HK via the axiom transformer, using just the power section on the HKand the preamp section of the axiom with the m60s tbere was a tangible difference.

There are certainly audible differences between amps/receivers. But you can't generalize and say one amplifier class is more analytical than another. If analytical means preservation of micro and macro dynamics, I'd have to say Class A wins. But it also depends on the capability of the designer and the company that manufactures it.

I can see that logic. Class to class generalization not being correct. I completely agree though that each amp or receiver or pre amp can definitely have a certain quality or signature. All the more reason to just start off with my yammie.

I’m pumped man to have new speakers coming. Fun stuff!!

I totally like how you're not just diving into a ton of new purchases. You can enjoy and compare them with the 60s in the living room for a while before yammieying them.

Thanks. I’d like to admit me taking my time is on purpose, and to a degree it is. But it’s also out of being indecisive, but that comes from not being totally sure of what I want in the big picture.

I’ve had that b stock lfr active walnut espresso in my cart a few times, just to try it on……it fits….

But then quickly realizing my house and space are just not ready for it.

But the master bedroom is something I can wrap my head around and get fairly immediate enjoy me too out of it too and not break the bank.

Never say never and I’ll see what happens when I eventually “ yammie “ the M3s in the master bedroom but the im hoping I can be good without a sub.

Next learning project I guess, room correction. There’s ARC , Dirac, mini dsp…..any others worth learning about?

I always thought room correction was more aimed at theatre applications not 2 channel.

How do the purists manage their rooms and systems with out room correction?

Yeah...the actives would fit you quite nicely.

2-channel systems are also prone to room effects.

I could be cheeky and say purists manage their rooms and systems with $80,000 power cables. But then, there's my special lady friend. Huge room including sloped, tall ceiling and not a single parallel surface. No room correction needed for her M5s or other speakers. All runs off my 22 year old Denon and it sounds astounding. Not a single speaker reveals itself and the M5s throw the sound like my actives.

Oh now you did it … insulting both tubes and vinyl in the same breath as pleasantly distorting devices .

Hi Kodiak

What kind of music do you listen to?

Steve Guttenberg (the guy whose review of the M3Ti got me into Axioms) reviewed the Raisong Bayou A10. He loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCk12xzivp8

It is a low power integrated SET tube amp from Red China. I sent one to Ian but it arrived from the US messed up. Audio Science says it measures like crap, but sounds really good.

Amazon has them for $399 USD. If you like head banging music, this may not be the one for you. If you listen mostly to female/male vocals, jazz, instrumentals, this may be a really great choice.





It uses EL34s, an exceptionally sweet sounding tube.

You can get a little bluetooth external transmitter.

I wouldn't use room correction for 2 channel. The less in the signal path the better.

Just a thought. Enjoy whatever you get!!

PS There is an Antique Sound Labs MG Si 15 DT with remote on canuckaudiomart used $750 Loonies. Oops, marked sold. I'd keep an eye out for one of these. They use KT88s and 12ax7s. They can be found, used, for about the same price as the Raisong. They're rated 5 wpc Triode, and 15 wpc Pentode. Their transformers are terrific! They are an incredible match for the M3s.

My opinion, you listen to music not measurements.