Tube questions/discussions (2x6 help)
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I've been doing a lot of reading on tube amps lately and I think that I might eventually do a small bedroom tube system when I get a house. The only question I have concerns Single Ended Triode (SET) and Pentode designed amps. From all my reading, the SET is the superior design. The problem is that they're WAY more than I'd ever spend on an amp ($1000 - $3000). On the other hand, many Pentode amps seem to be quite affordable (Antique Sound Labs and Jolida). My question is this. In terms of sound quality, does a SET amp really outperform a Pentode amp enough to justify double and in some cases triple the cost of a Pentode amp? From what I remember reading, SET amps are better at even ordered harmonics and supposedly this is why they give a more musical reproduction of sound. I would love to audition some tube amps to see the difference in sound between the two designs. Sadly, there's nowhere to hear a tube amp around here. *sigh*
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Re: Tube questions/discussions (2x6 help)
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Ola ST
I have an Antique Sound Labs MG S1 15DT tube amp, 5 watt per channel in Single End Triode mode, 15 watts per channel in Pentode mode. I've tried both modes, and just leave it set to SET 5 wpc. Sounds better to me - more liquid mids.
I have to say that BigWill did not get a fair dose of SET goodness this past Sunday. My new neighbors (directly from hell) were moving in, making a racket and playing Marriacci music loud on their boom box while we were listening to Loreena McKennett. I should have put in the new Diana Krall CD, sounds incredibly good.
Do Over, BigWill!
BTW, you can pick up a nice MG S1 15DT (integrated so you won't need a separate preamp) for under $700 probably for closer to $600 if you shop well - much less for used.
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OK, wid
Here's the Antique Sound Labs MG S1 15DT
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Now thats better.You da man.
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I thought your tube system was pretty excellent, 2x6! The Getz CD was probably not a good choice for demo-ing, but WTF. We should have played one of my discs, but even at that the differences between what I hear at your place and what I hear at mine can always be chalked up to some of the other variables.
After hearing a tube amp, I would not criticize anyone for choosing that type of equipment (though a HT receiver appears to be a way cheaper, more versatile piece of equipment ).
Save that beer for me and I'll pop by again soon.
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I'll save the beer, and fillets if you like, but I'm a tri-tip guy and have given up bottom feeding crustaceans.
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2x6spds,
What Axiom speakers are you using with your MGSI 15 DT? Also I was woundering if you personally prefer Tube to SS for Stereo music.
Thanks
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You can check out these affordable SET amps.
SE9 $399.98 shipped
SE18 $795 shipped
They also have some new ones coming out soon:
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I know nothing about tubes in general or these particular ones other than having read some good things about them in other forums and reviews. Perhaps a tube expert like 2X6spd has an opion...
Good luck,Jag
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