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speaker cable makes a difference!
#52552 07/15/04 06:45 PM
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wow i had no idea speaker cable could make such a big difference. i was using some crappy 16 guage wire i found from my parents 15 year old stereo system and then i bought some of axiom's 12 gauge stuff. actually made a difference i as pleasantly suprised

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#52553 07/15/04 06:57 PM
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go buy some 12 or 14 gauge .30 cents a foot speaker wire from home depot, and i bet it will sound just the same..

fun, cheap experiement.. get a friend to help you do a blind test.. dont let your mind tell you something that your ears dont hear.. in a fair and unbiased comparison, i bet they are almost identical!

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Oh i don't doubt they would sound the same, but the axiom ones definitly do sound better then the old crappy cables i had.

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#52555 07/15/04 08:49 PM
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Your old cables probably had a good build up of oxidation on the ends, which made them sound poor.

If you have not thrown them out yet, trim them down to fresh ends, and then give them a try.

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#52556 07/15/04 09:05 PM
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loose- i swear we are not trying to attack you.. there are just a bunch of us that dont believe or buy into the whole 'monster cable myth'..

i, and others, feel that the industry has mislead us to believe that a high dollar speaker cable can carry a signal better than a regular cheap ole cable from radio shack.. its just not true.. under strict testing conditions, most cables perform very evenly.

but, rest assured.. those axiom cables will still look and perform just as good in 20 years as they do today..

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#52557 07/16/04 04:22 AM
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say it with us, placebo




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#52558 07/16/04 04:26 PM
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I have used the "infamous" Monster cables for years.....I have found the different models boost the bass line a bit. I KNOW they are a bit more $$$, than the tiny wires some of the more "PARSIMONIOUS" posters here champion, but with the same ears that can "hear" the superior Axiom speaker sound, I can also hear the "subtle" improvement from better speaker cables. Think of it as garden hose v/s fire hose....
more is better...keep the length as short as possible for
l&r channels, and use gold connectors. Axiom is selling similar type cables for a reason,........they are better.


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#52559 07/16/04 08:52 PM
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Hey, you calling me cheap?!

Hehe. I think that is the nicest "I disagree with you about cables and I think they make a difference" post I have seen anywhere ever on any board>

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#52560 07/16/04 08:52 PM
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The garden hose vs. fire hose is actually a bad analogy.
If you hooked up a fire hose to a standard garden spigot, you'd get the same amount of water coming out the other end as if you used a standard garden hose.

If a hose's diameter (like a wire's gauge) meets the minimum requirements for preventing loss of pressure (signal), anything greater is unnecessary. Even 2x6 will tell you this since he loves his very thin Mapleshade speaker cables.

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#52561 07/16/04 10:27 PM
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Peter - I understand what you are trying to say. You can't get anymore "water" out of your system, and bigger "hoses" aren't going to increase "pressure/output."

But couldn't you go one step further and even say that a garden hose is the BEST kind of hose to use for gardening and that a fire hose is both cumbersome, sloppy, overkill, etc? Consider watering your plants with a fire hose using garden hose pressure. You wouldn't be able to really water all that well at all. You might even lose enough pressure in the pipe to prevent the water from coming out with even adequate pressure, let alone better pressure.

Now, I know that water and electricity behave differently, but I've heard the "bigger pipes" analogy used a lot to pursuade people to buy thicker cable - implying you can get more electricity/water through them. I've never heard it used in the opposite fashion - (i.e. you've squeezed all the water you can squeeze out of your system by using smaller wire - why waste your money on "pipe" you don't need)....good one!

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