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#52709 - 07/22/04 12:03 AM Re: OT: politics
TurboDog1 Offline
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Registered: 02/29/04
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Actually, Hawkson told me that you can mash up the yanka root, mix it into a smoothie, and then have an out-of-body transcendental experience....perhaps even open your eyes and find yourself on Mars.


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#52710 - 07/22/04 01:34 AM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 04/02/03
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I can make you laugh, and I can push your buttons, too.
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#52711 - 07/22/04 02:55 AM Re: OT: politics
KC_Mike Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 209
Loc: KS
Think about something. If the top 1% of the people make 90% of the money, doesn't that mean they roughly account for 90% of personal tax revenues?

I mean, what does somebody on my income contribute tax wise? The government might be able to build one bomb with the tax revenue taken from my wages....if its a dumb bomb.

Now take a guy like Bill Gates. The government receives tax revenue from his personal finances and from the company he started. Had he never started a company...think how much tax revenue would be lost from Microsoft in the last 10 years alone. Not to mention the local tax revenues generated by the sale of Microsoft's prodcuts and services. Some people complain about the ultra-rich without considering how much they contribute to the system. Not only that, but the ultra rich, like Bill Gates, start companies that create jobs etc. How many of us 'regular joes' out there can say they contribute in that fashion?

I don't hear anybody complaining about all the illegal aliens who get paid cash under the table and don't pay into the tax system. Sometimes, I guess its just easier for some people to blame the rich.



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#52712 - 07/22/04 03:40 AM Re: OT: politics
KC_Mike Offline
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What if we never invaded Iraq and ten years from now a nuke goes off in a US city and we discover Saddam financed the operation...or maybe lent out his nuclear scientists to terrorists....or maybe allowed the safe passage of plutonium through his country etc etc.

Would people then say, "you know, we should have went in there and done something. Bush really failed by standing on the sidelines and doing nothing about Saddam/Iraq".

Sure, its easy to say things like that. But isn't that what some people said about Clinton? Didn't they say Clinton failed by not taking out Bin Laden and Al-qaida when he had the chance? Sometimes history does repeat itself.

Would you all rather we did nothing and not know what exactly was going on in Iraq? Or would you rather we took the chance even if it meant we might be wrong. And as far as that is concerned, I don't think the WMD is that clearcut. Maybe 5-20 years from now, we will really know the status of WMD. Everybody expects that we should know the truth and that everything should be clear. We didn't find any...thus they must have never existed right? Maybe or maybe not. Is the truth sometimes hard to come by. You bet it is. To this day nobody knows for sure who killed JFK, and that happened in our own country.

While I am not a Bush-lover, I do love my country and I can't stand the fact that so many people are so quick to judge......believing they know exactly what is going based on the news they watch or listen. If you believe what the news reports and that it is not skewed in any way, then I guess Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy right?

If you believe the news, then you also probably believe the ATF burning down the Davidian compound in Waco was an accident and that Koresh was a child-raping maniac. It took what, 2 years for the truth to come out about Waco. If you never saw the documentary about Waco...you need to see it. It's appalling how badly we were all lied to.




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#52713 - 07/22/04 03:52 AM Re: OT: politics
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In reply to:

What if we never invaded Iraq and ten years from now a nuke goes off in a US city and we discover Saddam financed the operation...or maybe lent out his nuclear scientists to terrorists....or maybe allowed the safe passage of plutonium through his country etc etc.


Are you serious? Hypotheticals are never a good enough reason to go to war.

"I thought he was going to punch me next year, so I hit him today." Yeah. Uh huh.
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#52714 - 07/22/04 03:57 AM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 04/02/03
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It's appalling how badly we were all lied to


You forgot the one about how the Oklahoma City bombing was a government conspiracy. And how we never landed on the moon. It must be true because the media didn't tell us that.

Not everything the media tells us is a lie. It's often just not the whole truth.
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#52715 - 07/22/04 06:18 AM Re: OT: politics
AdamP88 Offline
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Registered: 08/12/03
Posts: 639
Loc: Omaha, NE
[sarcasm]What if?

What if 10 years into the future Israel and the US aren't on good terms, and Israeli's give terrorists one of their nukes to use on us? Well, it's hypothetically possible, so we should go invade em now, just to make sure! And we know they've got weapons of mass destruction already!

On second thought, heck, it's hypothetically possible that every major world power, and a bunch of lesser powers might attack us sometime in the vague future. For the sake of protecting our own, I say we invade everyone! You're either with us or against us![/sarcasm]

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#52716 - 07/22/04 10:47 AM Re: OT: politics
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
AdamP88, the hypothetical situations are pointless, but it is clear radical fundamentalist Muslims mean to kill US civilians now and in the future. What is the best way to combat such a foe?

And pmbuko, you cannot push my buttons - I refuse to click that link.


Edited by BigWill (07/22/04 10:48 AM)

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#52717 - 07/22/04 11:46 AM Re: OT: politics
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
bigwill-

well, here.. try this link with big boobs

i also found this one interesting.. it has free HT

and rush limbaugh had some real bad stuff to say about kerry

bigjohn
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#52718 - 07/22/04 01:32 PM Re: OT: politics
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
You almost got me with the "Big Boobs", bigjohn, but mama drowned all the dumb ones.

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