Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59174 08/30/04 09:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 791
aficionado
Offline
aficionado
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 791
I don't think reputable speaker companies like Axiom would make their speakers Bi-wire able or Bi-amp able if it was a bunch of bullsh*t.

Then again who knows?



M80's VP150 QS8's Earthquake SuperNova MKV-15
Integra DTR-7.4 Outlaw 755 Outlaw M200's Outlaw ICBM
Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59175 08/30/04 10:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,749
Likes: 37
connoisseur
Offline
connoisseur
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,749
Likes: 37
I've upgraded the capacitors (Jensen paper/oi in some and Audiocap Thetas in others) and resistors (Caddocks in some and Mills in others). This will void your warranty, but will provide an audible improvement in sound quality.

Last edited by 2x6spds; 08/30/04 10:39 PM.

Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59176 08/30/04 10:34 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044
shareholder in the making
Offline
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044
They do it because their customers expect it. That's my bet, at least.


I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!
Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59177 08/30/04 11:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,236
axiomite
Offline
axiomite
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,236
I actually think it says right in the Axiom manual that comes with their speakers that they don't believe it makes any difference in sound, but they offer it, because many people want it.



Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59178 08/31/04 12:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 289
M
local
Offline
local
M
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 289
You're right spiffme. I remember Alan in one of his news lettres saying effectively the same thing, that bi amping / bi wiring makes no difference.

jag

Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59179 08/31/04 02:02 AM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654
shareholder in the making
Offline
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654
Yes, Axiom puts two sets of terminals on a couple of its speakers as a concession to those audio cultists who would demand that their hallucinatory lust for bi-wiring could be satisfied. Having done that however, it would be remarkable if after all their design efforts, speaker designers would sabotage their own speakers(for the vast majority who wouldn't bi-wire)by bridging the terminals with something that somehow degrades the performance. The brass used in jumpers has higher resistance than copper and if the cross-sectional area was the same(the area is greater than some wires) it would have more resistance than copper wire. Over a distance of 2-3" this would be totally meaningless and using a piece of wire from a coathanger would work just fine.


-----------------------------------

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.


Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59180 08/31/04 02:08 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,951
connoisseur
Offline
connoisseur
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,951
You're the funniest man in North America.

Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59181 08/31/04 02:34 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 791
aficionado
Offline
aficionado
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 791
Thanks, I was curious. It would be worth exploring it made a difference in sound. A lot of people swear by it. I’m always pessimistic when it comes to things like this.



M80's VP150 QS8's Earthquake SuperNova MKV-15
Integra DTR-7.4 Outlaw 755 Outlaw M200's Outlaw ICBM
Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59182 09/01/04 10:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,488
connoisseur
Offline
connoisseur
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,488
Actually, the best tweak you can do is get the best placement.

Its true !

Re: Bi-wiring or Bi-amping?
#59183 09/02/04 01:40 AM
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 12
B
frequent flier
OP Offline
frequent flier
B
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 12
Darn, I expected more howls of outrage from the Axiom Forum Flat Earth Society. Oh well, I'll just have to make do.

Of course, not one of the people knocking this idea has actually tried it. They never will but even if they did, they wouldn't admit that there was an improvement in sound.

"Yes, Axiom puts two sets of terminals on a couple of its speakers as a concession to those audio cultists who would demand that their hallucinatory lust for bi-wiring could be satisfied."

Ever heard of biamping?

"The brass used in jumpers has higher resistance than copper and if the cross-sectional area was the same(the area is greater than some wires) it would have more resistance than copper wire. Over a distance of 2-3" this would be totally meaningless and using a piece of wire from a coathanger would work just fine."

Another example of someone who wants to "do the math" but not do the real world experiment.

Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  alan, Amie, Andrew, axiomadmin, Brent, Debbie, Ian, Jc 

Link Copied to Clipboard

Need Help Graphic

Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics24,945
Posts442,484
Members15,617
Most Online2,082
Jan 22nd, 2020
Top Posters
Ken.C 18,044
pmbuko 16,441
SirQuack 13,840
CV 12,077
MarkSJohnson 11,458
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 1,031 guests, and 3 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newsletter Signup
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4