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Roger Waters has released two new songs:

"To Kill the Child" and "Leaving Beirut"

They are political (what else is new) and are available in various streaming formats on his website.

http://www.roger-waters.com

Interesting...
Have been a fan since the 70's. When my new Mansfield B's (M60's, VP150, EP350, Qs8's) arrive next week, I'll have to check out, on my new Denon 2805, some of my old cd's I haven't listened to in awhile! I enjoy listening to Roger Waters "The Wall" Live in Berlin.....

You know, while I still admire the musicianship and production, I stopped really listening to Waters (and Floyd) about 20 years ago when I decided that it simply wasn't that much fun to listen to music that was successfully designed to make me feel miserable.

Tom
Try some of the older Floyd like "Meddle" or "Obscured by Clouds". they seem to put a little "spring" into my step while cleaning house. "Whats Uh The Deal", "Free Four", "Seamus" and "San Topix" are anything but depressing.
Thanks for the Waters tip.
Are these songs coming out on a cd or better yet a sacd soon?

Sure wish Waters and Gilmour would kiss and make up.

Back in the 80's while in high school, seems like ages ago, we used to go to the Pink Floyd Laser Light show in Des Moines, Iowa at the Science Center, it was pretty awesome synched to the music, they would usually open with Alan Parson's Project, which was also pretty cool.....

>>"Whats Uh The Deal", "Free Four", "Seamus" and "San Topix" are anything but depressing.

C'mon. Go back and listen to "Free Four" again. One.. two.. FREE FOUR... instant depression.

"The memories of a man in his old age
Are the deeds of a man in his prime.
You shuffle in gloom in the sickroom
And talk to yourself till you die."

Great synth too... Seamus and San Tropez are great, I agree.

>>Are these songs coming out on a cd or better yet a sacd soon?

Meddle is definitely out on CD but haven't seen Obscured yet. A friend told me that Atom Heart Mother is on CD but nobody can find it. I still have about 4:1 LPs to CDs, but I do have all my own teeth.

Heading out to the Waters site now.

JB

I suppose it's a matter of taste, but I always felt the best Floyd albums were the later ones (Animals is easily my favorite) where the anger and bitterness was so palpable. Others may disagree (after years of these types of discussions I realize I'm in the minority), but the ideas and emotions are articulated so clearly, it's just chilling. Amused to Death is incredible, and it's also a fantastic system demo CD. Highly recommended for any Waters fans who haven't heard it.

Well, guess I'm in another minority. I absolutely love Floyd. Wish you here Here, Animals, Dark side of the moon, Atom heart mother, etc...
Favorite line from Wish you were here, "Aren't we all minors for truth and delusion"

Floyd has some of the best transitions in there songs that I've ever heard in classic rock. The album, The Wall can be a bit of a bummer -- but an ultimate classic. Songs like Mother. Are we talking about the same band?!?!?!

"Mother do you think they'll bust my balls"

It has long been a staple in my classic rock collection. Wow, I am amazed at this thread...very surprised!!!

I think everyone on this thread loves Pink Floyd, just commenting that Waters tended to go through some seriously "down" periods and that tended to show up in the lyrics.

So tell me, do YOU think "Free Four" (off Obscured by Clouds) is a "happy song" ?

Hello....Hellooooo....this is the United States calling are we reaching?...I don't know why he keeps hanging up....

Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb.....

When I was going through a seriously down period in my life -- my future wife had dumped me, you see -- Floyd's "Division Bell" really helped me wallow. Never underestimate the healing power of music that helps you wallow. Eventually, my roommate complained and told me if I kept listening to that album on repeat, I would wither into a cold shapeless mass of misery. That was my wake-up call and beginning of my recovery.

yes, I'm sure you are correct. Some of it can definately bring you down. I heard Wish you Were Here, was written from within an insane Asylum. Real Cheary stuff.

Personally, if you're in a real wrist slitting mood, Neil Young is the only way to go. hehehe. No offense meant to any Neil fans. I love Neil... speaking of which there are some really good strumming on Harvest that the Axioms bring out.

Been there myself pmbuko, funny when you get older and look back on some of those times, which were "The Best of Times", oh wait wrong band.

Glad things worked out pmbuko...

Yep...Wrong band.

But some of us enjoy Styx too...

Except they are not Styx anymore without Dennis DeYoung...but lets just leave it at that...

A Man in the Wilderness...

WhatFurrer

I guess for me its the beat in "Free Four" that puts a spring in my step.
Now that you guys have gone and pointed out the lyrics, I'm very depresessed. ; ) I think one of you guys need to cheer me up with a six pack of XX amber, or better yet as long as we're listening to Floyd..........

I like ALL floyd and 90% of Waters by himself.

yea, the last time I saw Floyd it was at RFK stadium in DC. There was more than beer drinking at that one. I can't remeber getting depressed at that show. I like the big inflated Pig. They have some great effects that go with their music. I wish it wasn't so late, I put some on right now... let's see what would it be. May Time on Dark side of the moon. Let's see if I can't wake the neighborhood up. Great alarm clock.

what is it about that song. It's definately one of my guilty pleasures. Just not one you crank up at the ofice party.

>>what is it about that song. It's definately one of my guilty pleasures. Just not one you crank up at the ofice party

I find it shows off the imaging potential of a stereo system better than just about anything I have heard. All the different instruments have sharp & accurate positioning spread evenly across the soundscape, no "synth on the left, percussion on the right", singer in the middle" for this track.

I LOVE IT!!! We've got a Floyd thread going.
Wish I didnt have to head off to work.

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I like ALL floyd and 90% of Waters by himself.

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Agreed. I don't have any use for Radio K.A.O.S.. I'd characterize it as misguided, silly and unfortunate. I'd also use the same description for all of Floyd's post-Waters output.

Oh, and I think I'd include The Final Cut in the "Waters by himself" category.

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best Floyd albums were the later ones (Animals is easily my favorite)

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Animals is a highly underrated Floyd album. Although it is second to Wish You Were Here in my own list of favorite Floyd albums, I really like it, and I feel that some of David Gilmour's best guitar work is on Animals, particularly on Pigs (Three Different Ones), where he plays the same riff over and over, but never plays it exactly the same way twice. I also like Meddle, Atom Heart Mother (which is available on CD...my son has it), and, of course, Dark Side of the Moon.

I am waiting for the day when the whole Floyd catalogue gets the same SACD treatment as Dark Side..

Mark

If you want depressing, look no futher that "Time"...

And you run and you run
to keep up with the sun, but it's sinking

and racing around
to come up behind you again

the sun is the same in a relative way
but you're older

shorter of breath
and one day closer to death...

It's still one of my favorite songs of all time.

Mark

I like Floyd, but I think I just don't concentrate on the words as much as everyone else here. I never thought of it as depressing, more of just great mellow music to listen to to relax me. Something that is good to play driving down the road with the windows down on a beautiful day. Now that I see the lyrics to that part of Time in print though, I can see why you'd be depressed by it.

Don't listen to the lyrics??? You're missing 50% of the music!

and if i show you my dark side
will you still hold me tonight?
and if i open my heart to you
and show you my weak side
what would you do?
would you sell your story to rolling stone?
would you take the children away
and leave me all alone
and smile in reassurance
as you whisper down the phone?
would you send me packing
or would you take me home?

For long you'll live and high you'll fly, for smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry, for all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be

I listened to those two new songs (thanks for the post btw!) oh roger, what have you and maggie done now? I have been waiting for his new album that was supposed to be coming out, unfortunatly if its like this it might get spun once and thats it!

The Final Cut is by far my favorite floyd album, and yes, listening to the words and the emotion in the song is a must. It seems like most of the songs tell a story, and the story progressed through the album this is what i like about floyd and rogers music most bands dont write like that, theyre just looking for 1 hit wonders

I have to second the vote for The Final Cut. It is the one album that Watters realy pours his heart out.

Anyone heard the remastered The Final Cut that includes "When the Tigers Broke Free"? The audio quality on the remaster is supposed to be amazing.

agreed. my 2 favorites also. Animals has so many impressive transitioins, it is hard to believe.

But, I put in Wish you were here, and was driving accross the 7 mile bridge to Key West with the sun coming up, and I got to tell you that first track, Shine on you Crazy Dimond just blew me a way on that drive to the Keys, UFB.

What up with the naming convention though> Part 1 threw 11??? Anyone know why they did that?

Yea. Theyre just like me. They cant speell.

Anyone heard the remastered The Final Cut that includes "When the Tigers Broke Free"? The audio quality on the remaster is supposed to be amazing.

After learning that there even was a remastered Final Cut, I went out yesterday and bought the ablum. I thought that it was very good. Although, I thought that the first one was recorded very well.

just in case anyone wants a quck link to all the Floyd lyrics:

Floyd Lyrics

All this talk of The Final Cut made me sit down last night, turn out all of the lights and listen to it straight through. It's probably been about 9 months or so since I last listened to it. It's interesting to me to do that from time to time with certain records that made a huge impression on me when I was younger, mainly to see whether or not they hold up well. Some albums fail miserably. Others succeed not on their merits, but more on my sentimental affinity for the time and place with which I most associate them. I'm pleased to say that The Final Cut is just a remarkable piece of work. Some of the references are a bit dated, and some of the lyrics are a little heavy-handed (particularly for Waters), but overall it's still amazing. Waters is a master of the use of dynamics - the swings from his ragged, condescending croak-whisper to the agonized screams are terrific. All in all, it remains a must-have in my collection.

Right on. I can't say I listened to it in my childhood -- I think I first heard it 4 of 5 years ago when I bought it after my younger sister recommended it -- but it is an amazing album.

Over the weekend my wife took our kids to the mall, so I let the dog out for a bit and put in Dark Side of the Moon. Wow, I heard things on my new Axioms I hadn't heard before...incredible

Another vote here for Final Cut. A buddy turned me on to the album back in high school. I came over and found him sitting on the floor with it cranked. It was amazing. I haven't done an end-to-end session recently, but might just have to fix that.