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#72002 - 12/14/04 01:38 PM Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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Registered: 12/14/04
Posts: 93
Loc: Austin, Texas
Hello all, and thanks in advance for any guidance.

If I'm looking to sink $1200 to upgrade some speakers, I need some advice.

I have a Yamaha Rx v2400 w/the following speakers:

Center: Polk CSi5
Rear: Polk Fxi5
Sub: Polk PSW505
Fronts (this is the real problem): Eosone RSF600

While I don't "mind" the eosones, they do not perform all that well w/Yamaha's Direct Stero mode (no sub).

My debate is-- Do I spend $1200 and complete the Polk setup w/their flagship RTi12's OR Do I spend $1200 on the Axiom M60's, and the VP 150 (To match 3 front speakers)? Since the money is the same, are the RTi 12's going to give me more bang/buck then the M60's?

Thanks in advance!!

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#72003 - 12/14/04 01:42 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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Loc: Los Angeles
I have the M60ti and VP150, and I listened to a ton of Polk speakers before buying them. Without a doubt I'd recommend the M60's.

Though having said that, you need to hear them both for yourself. Where are you at? Can you get a demo of the M60's from someone in your area?


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#72004 - 12/14/04 01:52 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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Registered: 12/14/04
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Loc: Austin, Texas
Spiffnme- I am in Austin, Tx. I "want" the Axiom's pretty bad, and I feel good that they are superior to polk's but I feel like I'm comparing the "upper high end" tower of Axiom to the "flagship" of Polk. Meaning I "know the M80's are better than the RTi12, but I don't have a 4ohm receiver. Have you heard the Rti12's? Also, thanks for your help.
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#72005 - 12/14/04 01:58 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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Whatfurrer (Steve) is in Austin and he has M60s, I believe. He should pop in here sometime before Christmas, or you could send him a PM.
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#72006 - 12/14/04 02:14 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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In reply to:

Meaning I "know the M80's are better than the RTi12, but I don't have a 4ohm receiver.


It is a generally accepted fact that the M60s and the M80s have an almost identical sonic signature. Alan said something to this effect, and it can even be seen in the M60 product description on the Axiom webiste. The only advantages that the M80s offer over the M60s is their ability to play extremely loud in very large listening rooms, to handle insane ammounts of power, and to have a few Hz deeper bass extension. I'd think that if your room is under 4000 ft^3, the M60s would be more than enough for you. In addition, if you feel you really do want the M80s, they present a VERY easy load that is comperable to many 6-ohm speakers. The reasoning behind this is that their minimum impedance is 4 ohms, as opposed to most 4-ohm speakers which dip significantly below 4 ohms.



I believe that the M80s will work beautifully with the 2400 even in 8-ohm mode.

If necessary, however, your receiver DOES have a current limiting 4-ohm mode that would fix any over-heating problems associated with running the M80s on the 8-ohm mode.
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#72007 - 12/14/04 02:48 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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If you go with Axioms, M60's will be just fine, unless your trying to fill an auditorium
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#72008 - 12/14/04 03:36 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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Registered: 12/14/04
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Loc: Austin, Texas
So it sounds like at this point, I'd like to compare the M60 directly to the RTi12? Anyone think the Polk Rti12's are better than the M60's?
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#72009 - 12/14/04 03:58 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
romeo Offline
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Registered: 09/03/04
Posts: 45
You should expect what kind of answer you'll get when you post the question. Afterall, most of us here own Axiom speakers and most are objectively subjective in our preference.

You may get a more complete response if you post this to other audio/video forums.

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#72010 - 12/14/04 04:11 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
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Registered: 11/08/04
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Loc: Ohio
I can without reservation recommend the M60's, they are fantastic. As for the VP150 you will have to audition it to see if it suits your needs...
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#72011 - 12/14/04 06:24 PM Re: Need real advice based on 1200 budget. Axiom/Polk
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
If the Polk 12s are the ones I heard with built in subs - they're plenty good. If they match your current speakers sonically, and are not too expensive, that seems the most sensible way to go.
If you want to switch brands, the Axioms are great - much more lively than the Polks, better for HT IMO, will definitely get you a sense of "I'm in the room with the performers", and they're available in almost any finish imaginable... but don't expect them to sonically match your current Polk surrounds.
G'luck.

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