Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo So how are the m40's?

Alright!like your def. of "shockingly" (that could start a new post all on it's own)!!

As far as the term "laid-back" is concerned, I don't have many warm feelings for that one as a standard way of describing a speaker. Seems to me that there is no easy way to describe a Neither foreward nor laid back speaker. I used the term "Neutral" but I think that's more often used to describe tonality.

My M3s position the main image right at the plane of the speakers-in this room as well as in my last room-so, are they foreward or laid-back? I dunno. They ain't foreward and although they've been described here as laid-back, they ain't that either. (I've heard, in other places, "relaxed" or "easy-going, and that may be a bit closer to what "I" think I hear, certainly not "laid-back")

I think what we need is some kind of a standard definition as to variations in the level of either "foreward" or "laid-back"

I'm sure that no one would argue that an M40 is more laid back than an M60 or that an M60 is more foreward than an M40, but by "how much" which one is closer to the ideal? (not the ideal speaker, but as relates to the degree of foreward or back) Anyone?

and Yup, Alan had a good comment a few weeks ago-perhaps you read it too-about the more rapid fall off of the 6.5 woof vs the 5.25 that contributes to a reduction in the strength of the first reflections in the upper mids that causes a loss of the upper mid sonic content at the normal listening position.(or something like that) But yeah, I'm bettin' too that it must add to the "laid-back" nature of the 6.5 speakers.-however we want to define "laid-back" and to what degree.

Rich.

welp, im just about to order my m40's through the FO, i hope i love them figures that the cherry ones were the only ones with a 3 week wait

We'll never be able to define the term here...it's hard enough to get people to agree the correct break-in period for Monster speaker wire!! (It's a "shockingly" long time!)

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Mot to be disagreeable, but it was a shockingly short break in time for my cousin's best friend's girlfriend's father's Monster cables.

It seems that "shockingly" is the word of the day at the moment, So...

Hopefully three weeks won't be a "shockingly" long time to wait and that the wait will be worth it. You are joining a fairly small but happy group with a long(well, from the turn of the century, anyway)history. I've been reading these posts for almost that long, and I can't recall anyone who has bought the M40s who wasen't happy with them.

At any rate, welcome to the Axiom family!

Rich.

Sigh... I really want some M40s. I think I would like them a lot. I guess the next step for me is to go 7.1, move the M2s down to the basement as rears, and get some M40s for the bedroom. Sigh... not a chance in the near future anyways.

I wish every purchase didn't flow so smoothly into another purchase

Muffinman, enjoy your new speakers. Let us know how you like them !!

Yup, lots of activity on the "pleasant" side this week, seems the 6.5"group is getting some of the credit they deserve; again.

Just gotta keep that upgrade bug at bay til the right time,huh?

Sez the guy who's going to get M60s...

Aaah...Sez the guy who realized just how much he likes his M3s cuz he never heard a bad sound from them, ever, in quite a few years, from the one who really, really likes a slightly warm, more nostalgic "Tube" sound.(I mentioned that yesterday in this very thread) Also sez the guy who likes the presentation of the M3s in the area of "Foreward" or "Laid-back" who prefers them "Right In The Middle" The guy who is not necessarily Afraid of "Foreward" but just prefers "Middle"

In no way could I even consider disliking the M60s, they have way too much going for them. It's kinda like Viper vs Voyager, Vette vs Impalla, Ford GT vs Taraus, Yadda Yadda Yadda, like the mini van of speakers, (OK, bad examples-forget it) Hey, performance is cool! Right!? Yeah! it is!!

I've delayed pulling the trigger on this order for quite a few days while hashing over the pros and cons of both styles of speakers-it ain't been easy, not at all.

What may have setteled it was the realization of just how happy I've been with my M3s. I've had speakers in the past that I've been very fond of for a few weeks or so, but then
something small, not even noticable at first would start to get annoying, and the Honeymoon is over. I am of the impression that the M50s are very much like the M3-the only complaint I recall hearing about the M50 is that it dosen't sound enough like the M60.

What I "think" I need in my house, right now, is a bigger M3! Not as warm as an M40, not as cool as an M60. As best as I can tell right now, it seems to be the M50. I do know one thing, no more "Serious" M50 Posse stuff, the M60 guys got something going too good to make fun of. (Well, maybe a little "Good Natured" kiddin', but not more than that)

So I got one more day to go over all the thisses and thatsis of one vs the other and pull the trigger monday morning. I plan to live with these speakers for the rest of whatever, so gotta get it right. (although I think I can send them back-free shipping-towards a pair of M60s if they don't work out, Safety-net!!)

Is nothing ever easy?

"Rich,

I knew someone would immediately post (LOL!) about the M3ti, M40s and M50s. Lots of guys (and a few gals) really love the M3ti's and M50s and they are very nice speakers. And they are no upgrades or changes planned for them, either.

Even the M40 has its fans.

Regards,

Alan Lofft
Axiom Resident Expert"

This has me scared. Should i REALLY be spending more money here? Is the upgrade enough that I should be getting better than the m40's? i think i might wait till i get them and then check out some paradigms. the paradigms have a different sound sig right? if i were going to look into paradigms, which ones would i look at? is there anything else that i could demo in toronto that i should look into if the m40's aren't exactly what im looking for?