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Douglas Adams, author of "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" said that in one scene from his original radio series of the same name, where they wanted to convey the sense of extreme volume in music without being so loud that you couldn't hear the dialogue, they played the music at high volumes in a different room behind a closed door (i.e. introduced distortion). They then amplified this resulting sound coming through the door/walls, and it sounded loud without being loud.
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Unbelievable luck...
My M80s arrived today. One of them looks like it was removed from the box (on the way here) and tossed off the top of the CN tower for luck. It's in about 3000 pieces.
Axiom - I'm pleased to report - has another on the way already. But I can tell ya - ONE sounds pretty good : )
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Well that really sucks.If ya like one M80 then with the two together you should really be pleased.Axiom does have some exellent CS.
Rick
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Man, I'm sorry to hear it Beethoven....my 80s arrived today in great shape and they sound extremely awesome. Much better than I would have ever thought!
Good luck on recieving the other speaker, it will be worth the wait!
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Wow, I've never heard of one really broken up like that. Usually just a corner gets dinged in at the most. Sorry to hear that but I think you'll really enjoy them when you get two...
Two...
One fresh out of the box and one which has been played for a few days... two.
Two speakers which could be used to experiment with the "break-in hypothesis" (namely that we should stop talking about break-in)...
Two...
Hmm.
M60ti, VP180, QS8, M2ti, EP500, PC-Plus 20-39 M5HP, M40ti, Sierra-1 LFR1100 active, ADA1500-4 and -8
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Yeah, so you expect the guy to play it for a few days without listening to it? That's cruel!
Why don't we just get him to test audible cable differences instead and let him off the hook with his new toy(s)?
::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::
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I can tell you my new Axiom cable sounds fabulous hooked up to either speaker right now ; )
You're right about the "break-in" theory. I don't know what a typical "break-in" involves, timewise, but it'll certainly have a few hours on it by the time The Other Half arrives.
At the moment - I'm running one M80 on the Right, and one Altec VOTT on the left, a nice mix of furniture. It gives the visual impression that I'm listening to a lobster...one giant claw...
So far - totally unscientific - the Altec is holding its own SPL-wise, but it DOES sound "horny" now, dangit. There's probably no turning back at this point!
Really - what amount of time do the Break-In-O-Philes recommend?
Footnote - yep, it was well beyond a dinged corner. I am not kidding when I tell you, I opened one flap of the box and saw the crossover. It was lying next to one woofer. The bottom of the cabinet is totally MIA.
Having already dealt with SVS, Outlaw (twice) and AV123 in the past few months without a hitch, I was surprised, but now consider myself fortunate with the others!
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I had a VP-100 delivered with two crushed corners, and they had it replaced within 4 days. So no biggie for me, full points to Axiom CS, but I wonder if it wouldn't be more cost effective for them just to pack more effectively. The VP-100 packing styrofoam gave only 1 inch of cushioning at the corners, so one single drop and the corner's gone. I got a rice cooker for about $150 -- it's a nice rice cooker -- about the same size and weight, and it was double boxed by the reseller, so the rice cooker box was unblemished. I guess they have done some math on % returns and so forth, because double boxing would add a buck or two to real shipping costs on every order. (At my urging they did double box the replacement, and so my VP-100 box is in perfect condition!)
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>>Yeah, so you expect the guy to play it for a few days without listening to it? That's cruel !!
No, Mr. Bond, I expect him to listen.
The idea is that when the replacement shows up he will already have some hours on the first M80, so that it would then become possible to switch between a "broke-in" speaker and a "not-broke-in" speaker and see if there is any difference.
You have to test fast though, sounds like after a few hours they will both be "broke-in" and he'll have to buy a third M80 just like Dennis (Tharkun) did. At least Dennis found a use for his third M80
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When I received my VP100 there was a hole in the side of the box. At first I was worried that the speaker was damaged however once it was removed and inspected I breathed a sigh of relief. I was surprised that the VP100 was not double boxed like my M60's.
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