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#91034 - 04/20/05 12:19 AM Re: want some new gear for stereo
player8 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 521
Loc: PHX/Flagstaff, AZ
No reason inparticular, it's just that I've read reviews where the reviewer has preferred the NAD amps over the Rotel amps, and my local audio guy told me he stocks NAD over Rotel gear because for the same price he thinks the NAD sound is better. My personal preference, is that the Rotel gear looks really cool, but the NAD gear has kind of a tough guy, "I don't care what I look like cause I know I'm a bad a$$" look to it.

I still hear that Rotel makes excellent products and if I were to get a great deal on Rotel gear I'd probably jump on it (supposing I was in a monetary position to do so) it's just that personally, I would take a chance on NAD gear.

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#91035 - 04/20/05 11:18 AM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3903
Loc: Up yonder
thanks. I too like the no-nonsense look of NAD gear. But those black Rotel's look pretty cool too (plus they would match my Integra CD/DVD player perfectly). The Halo looks dam sexy in an entirely different way. I don't like the look of the classic parasound stuff. But enough on cosmetics, I'm trying real hard to stop the impulse of buying that Rotel gear on Audiogon......this is gunna be tough...damit…..I….can…..resist….

I had looked at the HK receiver, and separates. My 7200 is rated at 100 WPC and it certainly plays the 80’s louder than I can tolerate, but I’ve heard from too many folks, too many times how the 80’s really wake up when you put about 200 wpc to them. I’ve just got to try it! The only reason my minimum is 150 wpc, is because I didn’t want to prematurely rule out the NAD gear.

Does anyone know where I can buy Rotel and NAD on line, or anywhere that I can call and get pricing. I’m not afraid of B stock or refurbished as long as it has a warrantee.

………so much for waiting…..I just know I’m gunna buy something, real soon. This place has a horrible influence on me…….


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#91036 - 04/20/05 12:04 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
player8 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 521
Loc: PHX/Flagstaff, AZ
I know Saturdayaudio.com used to stock NAD amps, you might want to check them out. There are a few other sites but I haven't visited them in a long time and I can't remember.

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#91037 - 04/20/05 12:07 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
Not sure about NAD, but Rotel doesn't sell online.


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#91038 - 04/21/05 04:02 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 06/19/02
Posts: 248
Loc: London, Ontario
I would favor anything Rotel or Arcam. Very warm and accurate, with excellent dispersion (Well maybe its just me, i seem to think sound is placed better with those two)
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#91039 - 04/21/05 06:05 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3903
Loc: Up yonder
I'm "negotiating" terms with the seller. Any idea's how to reduce my risk in loosing a $1000 buying items like this? Kind of a leap of faith, so to speak. There would be no recourse if I got screwed.
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#91040 - 04/21/05 07:40 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 04/28/04
Posts: 134
Loc: SF bay area
I bought an amp from Audiogon, it's the one I am now using to power my M80's. It's an Aragon 4004, 2x 200w, works great with the M80's. I paid $600 for it. I have a couple of friends that buy a lot of stuff from Audiogon, no problems at all.

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#91041 - 04/23/05 12:56 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3903
Loc: Up yonder
Well, we are at an impasse’ with the second hand Rotel gear. Plus, the local Rotel dealer wont budge on price and sells at MSRP only. That’s just against my principles so I’m about to pull the trigger on the NAD separates.

Anyone have any last words on this? What kind of SQ difference should I get going from my HK / 100 wpc to NAD / 150 wpc?? If anything changes, my hope is that they will be less forward than they are now.

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#91042 - 04/23/05 04:25 PM Re: want some new gear for stereo
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
In reply to:

Plus, the local Rotel dealer wont budge on price and sells at MSRP only.




Uh huh, same thing I was told whenever I bought my Rotel gear, conversation went something like this...'OK, give me the best price you have to offer' the reply was 'That is the ONLY price', oh well I forked over the money and have been very happy with my decision to take the Rotel stuff.

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#91043 - 04/24/05 12:46 AM Re: want some new gear for stereo
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Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10386
Mike, I know that you wrote that you've "just got to try it!", but you've also invited "last words" and want to know what "SQ difference" you should get. Factually, you should get none. You've already reported that your 7200 drives your M80s louder than you can tolerate. The difference between 100 and 150 watts in maximum loudness is only about 1.8dB. Note also that the HK rating is somewhat conservative and that continuous power into 4ohms is likely on the order of 200 watts. The two channels of the 3480 are essentially similar to the channels of the 7200 and would provide equally transparent amplification. Your M80s are already wide awake from what you report, so spending money on unused amp headroom isn't necessary to remedy a non-existant slumber.
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