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Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93264 05/05/05 05:11 PM
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Hi Bill (wgriel)! I am relatively new to Axioms, I got my m60s three weeks or so ago, and I am quite happy. I use them for 100% 2 channel stereo with Rotel RB-1070/ RC-1070 combo and Rotel RCD-1072 cd player. My room is big too (20 to 22) and has opening to the kitchen and a corridor. However, my axioms with my Rotel gear fill it completely. I am not thinking to add a sub for now, since M60s are pretty good and accurate at the lows.

I would also suggest to listen to Axioms yourself, as I did, courtesy of Capt. Pickard, before purchasing them. Check another thread here for availablity in your area.

I was considering Paradigms studio 100 and yes, they may have been a bit better, but for less than half the price, I went with m60s.


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Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93265 05/05/05 05:24 PM
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Hi thyname,

thanks for the reply - I did have a look to see if there was anyone in my area for an audition, and there is one person who's not too far away but still it's a bit of a jaunt.

I might be able to try to arrange something, but work can get pretty busy for me sometimes so it can be tough.

Interesting that you mention the Paradigm studios - I gather from reading a number of threads here that the Studios are in many ways similar sounding to the Axioms (of course many prefer the Axioms, but some prefer the Studios).

At least it seems as though they are nearer to each other in sound than say, B&Ws or Boston Acoustics for example.

As a last resort, I may audition some studios in place of Axioms: If I really like them, I'll probably go the Axiom route simply because of the big dollar difference. I figure it's not too much of a risk because of the Axiom 30 day money back guarantee.

I'll also include one or two of the Paradigm Monitor line to see how they compare. I've got a lot of listening ahead of me, that's for sure!

Cheers,

Bill

Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93266 05/05/05 05:30 PM
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MSRP on Paradigm Studios is USD 2300, plus you have to pay sales taxes. You may be able to bring them down to 2K though. I also like B&W 703s (I believe USD 3K). All these three speakers (including m60s) sounded similar for my ears. The best would be to order Axioms and get Studios or 703s home for audition (if you can find a dealer able to lend you Studios or 703) and listen in your own room with your own equipment. Sounds strange, but these are expensive staff and dealers may be willing to do this, just to get your business.

And yes, I did consider money issue in making my decision. I felt m60s provided best bang for the buck!!


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Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93267 05/05/05 06:08 PM
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Some audio folks that I respect quite a bit are big proponents of the bookshelf + sub approach and claim that they will usually outperform floorstanders.




And in most cases I'd agree...until I heard the M60ti's. Most floorstanders I'd heard in the past were always very muddy in the upper/mid-bass range. I just hated that. Pairing a good bookshelf speaker with a good sub gave me clarity throughout the spectrum. And to me that was most important.

Then I heard the M60ti's.

Tight and clean throughout their entire frequency range. On top of that (assuming your room is large enough) the towers gave me a larger soundstage, and a bit more depth in that critical mid-bass area.

I was sold. Love my M60's.



Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93268 05/05/05 08:47 PM
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I would also recommend purchasing from the Axiom Factory outlet to save an additional 10%.


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Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93269 05/05/05 09:13 PM
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Yeah, I've been looking at the Factory Outlet, and that savings is pretty appealing. I suppose it all depends on how impatient I am once I make up my mind!

Cheers,

Bill

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#93270 05/05/05 09:20 PM
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yep, depending on what color your considering, the delivery might only be a week or two. many of the popular colors have a bit longer wait time. I think I waited about 3-4 weeks for my mansfield beech beauties....

Randy



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Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93271 05/05/05 09:26 PM
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A little off topic, but I noticed from your web page that you have a Denon AVR-2805. How do you find that?

The reason I ask is that I'm eventually going to be purchasing a HT reciver, and I currently own a Denon DRA-395 for 2 channel stereo (and I'm happy with it).

Of course, by the time I get around to putting that together, the models could completely change...

Bill

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#93272 05/05/05 09:40 PM
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A little off topic, but I noticed from your web page that you have a Denon AVR-2805. How do you find that?


He goes into his HT room and there it is!

Sorry... someone get the "ouchless" duct tape...

Bren R.

Re: Bookshelves vs floorstanding
#93273 05/05/05 09:48 PM
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LOL! Yeah, I guess that would work

Bill

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