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Re: OT - What's your favorite Reds?
#95487 06/12/05 07:07 AM
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The chardonnay taste off came to a conclusion this evening.
First conclusion, price means nothing.
Second conclusion, individual tastes differ, but overall quality still seems to rank pretty equally in blind tasting with several individuals involved.

More info tomorrow on the 5 wines tasted.


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Re: OT - What's your favorite Reds?
#95488 06/12/05 04:01 PM
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The last blind testing I had at my house had similar results. We had ten bottles, all reds from $7.50 a bottle, to $40 a bottle. I even included one of my favorites, and I scored it a five out of the ten. There were six of us, and the unanimous winner was a $12 bottle of Meridian – Cab.

Thanks for the links fellas.


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#95489 06/12/05 04:59 PM
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"Should we stick to Napa, or include other areas?"

Well, Napa certainly has PLENTY of great Wineries to visit, but if you are looking for fun, and to cut loose a bit, I would concentrate on Sonoma and a couple of other areas.
Napa has gotten to the point where many people take themselves just a bit too seriously.
The guys in Sonoma are a Hoot. WAY Looser.
Some cool places down n Carneros as well. MacRostie is great.
Actually, in Napa, just at the edge of Carneros is one of my all time favorite producers, George Hendry. Amazing wines, great fellow. By appointment only.
Straddling the crest between Napa and Sonoma (they actually have two tasting rooms on top of the mountain, one in Napa & one in Sonoma, connected by a walkway - something about local regs!)is Pride Mountain. I've had no contact with these guys in several years, but everyone I have sent there has had a great time.
I'll mine my addled brain and come up with some others that are fun...
TjB



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Re: OT - What's your favorite Reds?
#95490 06/13/05 02:30 AM
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It's beggining to sound as if I should take ten days vrs 5......

I better get a lone.

Re: OT - What's your favorite Reds?
#95491 06/20/05 02:55 PM
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Chess,

Where are the Chard notes?

Also - tried an inexpensive New Zealand Sav. Blanc - Monkey Bay was the name. It was tasty, lots of citrus, with some mineral notes. It was $8.99 at Whole Foods, so probably can find it for a few dollars cheaper at any sanely priced grocery store/shop. Worth it.

I know this is a Red thread, and trust me I am not much of a white wine drinker, but I must investigate more New Zealand whites!


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#95492 06/20/05 06:19 PM
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Try that Kim Crawford Chard then.

Re: OT - What's your favorite Reds?
#95493 06/21/05 12:54 AM
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"It was $8.99 at Whole Foods, so probably can find it for a few dollars cheaper at any sanely priced grocery store/shop. Worth it."

Doubtful you will find it elsewhere... it is a Whole Foods Exclusive. They run quite a bit of that kind of stuff...

And yes, it is pretty damn decent stuff for the $$$.



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Re: wine thread
#95494 06/21/05 04:43 AM
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I never did finish the thread on the wine tasting dinner. A total of 7 bottles opened, 5 tasted, 2 just for fun including one 1997 Sumac Ridge Pinot Blanc icewine.
More later.
I need sleep.


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Re: OT - What's your favorite Reds?
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DL, the chard notes are coming.
Needless to say, price did NOT dictate best wine!

As for savblancs, the NZ offerings are FANTASTIC!!
So full of character compared to anything else i've tried with this grape. A winery to watch is The Crossing. They have a Marlborough and a Reserve savblanc that are just incredible. Fresh cut grass, wet stone and flint notes, lime character, just bam, alive with flavour. I also tried an Oyster Bay at lunch the other day. Very nice and a bit cheaper than The Crossing wines.


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Re: wine thread (the blind tasting)
#95496 06/24/05 06:34 PM
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The notes on the chardonnay wine tasting (4 participants) from bottom to best:

8.20
Cuvaison Napa Valley US-Calif. Chardonnay 2000
14% alc $35
small, heavy oak astringent bouquet, toasted oak, pineapple and lemon flavours, sharp off the tongue, acidic, not smooth

8.35
Meursault
Chartron et Trebuchet (Burgundy) France Chardonnay 1999
13% alc $75
oak and dill bouquet with off nose smell, slightly acicidc, semidry, dill flavours, slightly bitter toasted nut finish (great with apricot infused cheese)

8.80
Toasted Head US-Calif. Chardonnay 2003
14.5% alc $28
apricot, vanilla bouquet, touch of spiceyness, tropical fruit, sweet buttery oak notes,med body, soft finish

9.30
Beringer Founders Estate US-Cal. Chardonnay 2002
13.9% alc $22
tropical fruit, floral mango notes, smooth, robust, semi-buttery with oak tones, soft finish

9.50
Peller Estates Andrew Peller Signature Series Canada-Ont. Chardonnay 2001
13.5% alc $28
small butter, vanilla bouquet, light toasty oak, fruit and honey tones with amazingly smooth texture and finish, brilliant wine!!

Of course the invidividual participants did corroborate while tasting but we did not all agree and the tasting was done blind. No one knew which wine we had except for the person who did the pouring in another room.
Although the Peller Estates came out on top by a HUGE margin, the Beringer and Toasted Head were consistently ranked #2 and #3 but in mixed order, and evenly (2 ppl vs 2 ppl on the order).
The most expensive bottle, the Meursault came in a dismal 4th while the second most expensive bottle came in last. Personal preference will determine the rankings but of the 4 ppl we had on hand, the quality and character of the chardonnays were ranked quite consistently the same.

Overall the evening was just fantastic.The blind tasting was a real challenge to see if one could figure out which wine was the one they brought. NONE of us got any of the wines matched right.
All of these wines except for the Peller Estates can be found in most liquor stores. The Peller Signature series MIGHT be carried in the fine wine sections across Canada, otherwise it needs to be ordered or bought directly from their website store.
All prices listed were in Cdn $.



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