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#96225 - 05/27/05 01:29 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
Get a bunch of T Amps for $20 each, and some 13.8 volt power supplies for another $20 each.

I have a good friend who sold an ATI monster 5 channel amp and replaced it with a Parasound Halo monster 5 channel amp. The parasound runs hot. He misses the ATI. You may want to check out their amps if you want something that will sag your floor and have the capacity to output more watts than you'll ever use.
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#96226 - 05/27/05 07:18 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1155
Loc: Alabama
Thanks John for the link. I am going to read it more carefully. Over the past 40 years, I have seen numerous articles that scientifically and accurately describe the problem. However, there are those that somehow convince those (with money) that there are differences.

Oh well, that has not changed in 40 years and probably will NOT change in another 40 years.
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#96227 - 05/27/05 09:50 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Registered: 04/05/05
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Not to shake the boat, but I am often really surprised from this forum guys: all these theories have been trashed here: Speaker cables don't make any difference in sound, interconnects have nothing to do with sound, power amps sound all the same and can only differ at deafening listening level when they start to distort, none of audio equipments need to break in, no need for line conditioners/power protection, barewire is the optimal connecting method with speaker cables, biwiring doesnt do anything,...... Come on guys!!! Should we just purchase one of those mini systems instead??!!
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#96228 - 05/27/05 10:09 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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I think you can safely preface all of that with "when you're using quality components." Mini systems ain't.

Boy, it's going to be a fun weekend, isn't it...
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#96229 - 05/27/05 10:22 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Mini system is just for comparison by the way. Yet when you use the term "quality component", this term is relative depending on different people perceptions, meaning that different people have different opinions and experiences with speakers, speaker cables, power amps, etc..
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#96230 - 05/27/05 10:30 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Registered: 01/21/04
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it is MY opinion, that EVERYONE has their own opinion, and they often vary from my beliefs. so, i believe what I choose to, i try not to criticise others for their beliefs, and just turn up the volume knob til it sounds good.

problem solved with much less headaches!!

bigjohn
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#96231 - 05/27/05 10:31 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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I'm going to leave the cables aside for the moment and point out that mini systems use terribly low quality components and amps. Of course they're going to sound unimpressive. Hyperbole will not help your argument. Compare a Yamaha and a Denon in pure direct mode at volume equalized levels in a double blind test, and you most likely will not hear a difference.
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#96232 - 05/27/05 10:42 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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I agree re Yamaha and Denon. But when you jump to Rotel... I remember when I first bought my first Rotel piece: receiver RX-1052, I listened to it at a demo showroom at my dealer's shop compared with Yamaha stereo receiver (RX 777 I believe, even though not sure for the model, which by the way was my first choice before discovering Rotel). I was able to tell the difference 8 times out of 8 in a blind test with same speakers and cd player using dealer's switch.

Anyway, I think everybody's experiences are unique, all should be able to trust their own ears and get what pleasure them, be it an expensive speaker cable, interconnect, power amp etc. or a consumer market one.
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#96233 - 05/27/05 11:09 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
Do speaker cables, interconnects, seperates vs non-seperates and etc...really make a huge difference in sound? Who knows!

My personal theory is if I have a budget which affords me good quality audio/video equipment, why not top it off with some good quality accessories? Even all the while I'm knowing for a fact that some of this gear I'm using to accessorize my system doesn't do a thing better than some run of the mill gear. I buy some of these accessories because they make my system look as sharp as it sounds while being functional, and to me, that means a lot...within what *I* would consider a reasonable budget.

I'm getting ready to put some money into a nice power conditioner, not because it's as magical as some claim but because at this point I can afford one and I personally like the way it organizes the place, nice and tidy.

I do like coming over here to this site because there is a chock full of info from you all and for the most part most everybody here is looking for the best bang for the buck.

Everybody have a good long weekend and drive safe!
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#96234 - 05/27/05 11:24 AM Re: Choosing a new amplifier
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Registered: 04/05/05
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Loc: Oakton, VA
Ric - BrotherBob: I exactly act like you when purchasing audio equipment, as soon as I have some money aside, I try to maximize my listening pleasure, sometimes I get something functional sometimes I upgrade, and true sometimes I see improvement sometimes I don't. The final conclusion is that I have an expensive system now (to my standards of course) and am always stunned when I seat down to listen, so great it sounds. I am actually proud of myself, I can listen at my place to such a great quality I had only listened to some high end audio stores before. And of course it is always this "upgradatis" bug around, but I am set for now.

By the way, my last piece I received is a Belkin PureAV PF60 power console. It is Belkin top of the line, I got it online brand new for less than half of its MSRP price of $750. Could I do without it? of course yes, but since I had the money why not!! It looks so cool and everything seems to be more organized now at my stand. It is also fun to see through its LCD the power reading, amps per each port. Also I have a better piece of mind regarding protecting my expensive system. The question would be: has it improved the sound of my system? Probably not, for what I've listened in these two days since I got it. However, I did not expect it to do so anyway, or I would probably tell some improvement later. Important is that it did not seem to refrain my 200 wpc RB-1080 (rotel), as I had read the case is with power conditioners and high current power amps.
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