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dual center channels (2x vp150)?
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I am considering getting 2 vp150s for my dedicated theater. One above and one below the screen. Has anyone done this? Is there much benefit?

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sotwell #261679 05/28/09 08:02 PM
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I am using that. It anchors the dialogue to the center. The biggest difference for me was multi-channel music where I had a problem with vertically skewed soundstage depending if my center was on top or on the bottom. For HT only, I could have lived without with no regrets. If you get two, make sure they do not "crossfire" as they will interfere with each other. One aiming at your stomach (the bottom one) and the other aiming slightly above your head gives a very good center image.


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EFalardeau #261680 05/28/09 08:05 PM
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Hello sotwell,

I believe JC, one of the Axiom Audio specialists uses dual VP150's in his dedicated home theatre system. They are hooked up to the Axiom A1400-8 amp. I bet he could help you out a lot with any questions you have.


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I have the opportunity to buy 2 used mint vp150 (I currently have m60s)and thought that this may be worth it. I have read on other sites that 2 centers was not a good idea. But I will have a large dedicated HT 22x17x10 with a 136" 2.35x1 screen and thought that with my stadium seating, 2 centers may work well.

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sotwell #261686 05/28/09 09:15 PM
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I'm sure it would work once you get it all setup right, keep in mind your ohm rating for that channel will be around 3ohms if your receiver is ok with that.

I have the same size screen you do, with 2 rows of seating and my single 150 seems totally fine, and the voices appear to come from dead center of the screen, by using a slight tilt upwards of the speaker.


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sotwell #261691 05/28/09 10:37 PM
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Hi Scotwell,
Dual center speakers is the way to go without hesitation.

The center speaker needs to reproduce between 70 to 80% of the movie soundtracks on its own; it will bebefit from all the help it can get.

Dual center speakers . . . The larger your main speakers are, the more sense it makes . . . The larger your video screen is, the more sense it makes . . . The more rows of listeners you have, the more sense it makes.

Most of the times, your main speakers will have a larger enclosure and more drivers than the center speaker; adding a center speaker makes thing more even . . . One center speaker above and below the screen perfectly locks the sound in the center of the screen where it should be . . . When you have multiple rows of listeners, using a single speaker, the sound will be optimized for only one row or of a lesser quality for all of them.

Connecting them in parallel will lower the Impedance to 3 Ohms but it is a very easy 3 Ohms and a quality receiver or amplifier will power them. I used to power mine with a Newcastle receiver and it never failed even under abuse. Alternately, you could connect them in series which would not lower the Impedance and according to Ian C. who designed the VP150v2 (and all Axiom speakers) it will not affect negatively the sound quality of the VP150v2s.

Now, I’m spoiled, I power each of my VP150v2 with its own A1400-8 channel . . . endless power with frightening dynamics . . . Vive 8 channels !

Using dual center speakers creates a wall of sound and contrary to what you might have read the quality of the sound reproduction does not suffer from any negative effects when properly installed. In fact, you get superior intelligibility at lower volume level.


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Jc #261694 05/28/09 10:45 PM
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I'm using dual M2s as centers above and below. It does a great job of centering the dialog, even on a smaller screen.


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JC - could you please provide some more details on connecting them "in parallel" vs "in series"? How would I actually wire under each sceniro and is there a performance advantage on one vs the other? I am planning on using the Denon 3808.

Also, if the centers are an older version (TI) and my m60s are v2, would that be an issue?

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sotwell #261742 05/29/09 02:00 PM
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Parallel: Two sets of wires running from the + and - of the receiver to each of the posts on each speaker. So they run out as a Y.

Serial: One wire from the + of the receiver runs to the + of one speaker. A wire connects the - of that speaker to the + of the second. Last, the - of the second runs back to the - of the receiver.


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ClubNeon #261745 05/29/09 02:09 PM
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There was a thread a while back, (hopefully someone remembers which one and can post that again) that had a drawing/visual aid on how to connect series and parallel.


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