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#100383 - 07/03/05 02:01 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 02/19/05
Posts: 243
Loc: Ventura, CA
If your TV has them go with component video connections not S-video. Component is a dramatic difference in quality.
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#100384 - 07/03/05 03:44 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 06/27/05
Posts: 61
Does this look right?

Onkyo 602 Amplifier setup

Is that how I should set it up? My tv has Video 1 as Component, so I would just leave my TV on Video 1 all the time right?

But isn't only the video cable the only bond between the amp and the tv? does that mean that I can't use the amp and surround sound speakers to watch cable?

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#100385 - 07/03/05 08:44 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 01/24/05
Posts: 2034
Loc: Fla. Orig. Mich.
I also have an Onkyo 602, and what I do, is run the video right to the TV instead of going thru the receiver and maybe compromising the signal with a few extra connections and circuitry. The audio, however, is run thru the receiver: The analog and digital audio "out" from the TV goes to the receiver(as the cable co-ax, analog audio and component video goes directly to the TV)so the receiver gets cable signals from the TV instead of the cable box.

Oh, and I do the same with the DVD and games: Video to the TV; audio to the receiver!

Works for me, anyway!




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#100386 - 07/03/05 08:56 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6252
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
In order to get surround sound from your cable hookup, you need to run either a digital coaxial cable, or digital optical cable from the digital coaxial output or digital optical output of your cable box to the appropriate input of your receiver. The area, in you diagram, labeled #8 is your 3 optical inputs, while #10 is your 2 coaxial inputs. Either connection will suffice.

Once you've run the cable, you'll need to go into the Onkyo's "Initial Setup" menu and assign whichever input you use to your cable input (see page 42 of your manual).

By the way, in order to get surround sound from your DVD player you'll need to run a digital cable from from your DVD to one of the digital inputs on your receiver, and assign that input, as well.

The "down" side to running your video from your cable box to the receiver, then to the TV is, whenever you want to watch TV, you MUST turn on your receiver. The "up" side is, as you've said, you only need one video cable running to your TV, which means you can leave your TV on Video 1 all the time.
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#100387 - 07/03/05 09:31 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13340
Loc: Iowa
just an fyi, I would say about 80%+ of the people that order from Axiom's, order from the factory outlet, and you will never find any defects. It is an issue of quality control during the manufacturing process. Even if there is a slight nick, that you can't even see with a microscope, it gets sold cheaper. I bought all my stuff that way, got the 10%, and the 5% since i ordered 5 or more items. I'm sure with the weekend in all, you could call them and change the order, but heck, it is only money. You'll have them in a few days..

What color did you order...
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#100388 - 07/03/05 10:11 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5431
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Would it be more correct to say "80% of the people on the board" order from FO ? I know a lot of people who own Axioms who have never heard of the board, never heard of the Factory Outlet, and wouldn't be interested anyways.

I expect >80% order A stock -- it's just the folks like us (who ask lots of questions) who order through the Factory Outlet

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#100389 - 07/03/05 10:25 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13340
Loc: Iowa
Here are some results from a poll I did some time ago.

All Axioms from FO 30 (36%)
All Axioms from regular inventory 15 (18%)
Mix of Axioms from FO and Regular 27 (32%)
Mix of Axioms from FO & other brand speakers 5 (06%)
Mix of Axioms from Reg. & other brand speakers 6 (07%)

Of course the numbers are only from a small sampling, but it appears the FO, has a slight edge over Regular stock. I'm sure the pattern would continue if we questioned those who don't frequent the forumns.

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#100390 - 07/03/05 10:36 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
bridgman Offline
axiomite

Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5431
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
I agree with your numbers completely. Where we disagree is whether the same pattern would be seen for the larger set of Axiom customers outside of the board denizens.

We need another poll; or better yet we can ask at the picnic.

I have visions of a "factory outlet" line after regular QA, where the most experienced staff get to bang up the corners and sides of the speakers with tiny hammers to ready them for FO

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#100391 - 07/03/05 11:35 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13340
Loc: Iowa
I agree that my 80%+ statement was probably a little off, as you can tell from my few poll results. It would be nice if Amie would chime in here and let the cat out of the bag. I'm sure they have sales figures that would give us the facts.

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#100392 - 07/03/05 11:55 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Registered: 06/27/05
Posts: 61
"In order to get surround sound from your cable hookup, you need to run either a digital coaxial cable, or digital optical cable from the digital coaxial output or digital optical output of your cable box to the appropriate input of your receiver. The area, in you diagram, labeled #8 is your 3 optical inputs, while #10 is your 2 coaxial inputs. Either connection will suffice."

I just have a regular coaxial, I can't use that? My DVD player is also a VCR, if I want Surround I can always watch TV thru my VCR anyway.

"By the way, in order to get surround sound from your DVD player you'll need to run a digital cable from from your DVD to one of the digital inputs on your receiver, and assign that input, as well."

huh? I need to buy another thing?

"The "down" side to running your video from your cable box to the receiver, then to the TV is, whenever you want to watch TV, you MUST turn on your receiver."

Is that really a down side? I'd need the receiver to use my good speakers...the tv speakers are terrible.

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