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#109277 - 01/26/06 11:28 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
JohnK Offline
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Registered: 05/11/02
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Nat, JC's response from Axiom appears to be right on target. On 3. in particular there may be a misimpression that the setting for the internal sub crossover(e.g. 40Hz)affects the mains if connected through the sub. The sub crossover is only a low-pass filter on its own response and has no effect on the full-range signal passed through to the mains.

The fact that a speaker such as the M80 has very good response to below 80Hz doesn't make it necessary(or even advisable)to cross it at other than 80Hz. Especially with subs as excellent as the EP500 and EP600, they should be allowed to carry the major load in the lowest frequencies which they handle even better than the M80s and relieve them(and the amplifiers driving them)of more of the load.
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#109278 - 01/27/06 01:14 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
Nat Offline
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Thanks for clearing that up.

I just checked the sub manual (the EP 600 and my existing sub) and the crossover settings are not clearly mentioned. I genuinly thought that the sub corssover would crossover from the speakers to the sub.

Just learnt something new
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#109279 - 02/15/06 08:28 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Registered: 02/03/05
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Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
I'm having real trouble wrapping my mind around the idea of a single 12" driver having more output and impact than 4 SVS 12" Ultra drivers. My wife has basically told me to get what I want and shut up about the subwoofers but now I can't decide what to get. I want a sub that can do pipe organs and kick drums equally well. :-) That doesn't seem to exist in my price bracket. (About $2000) My room is every bit of 4000 cubic feet. I also don't want to mess with plugging ports because in my experience this has led to port noise that I was able to hear.

Whatever I get I have to be happy with for the next 10 years at least.
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#109280 - 02/15/06 08:32 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Two EP500s from the factory outlet would just barely be over your budget and it's likely two subs will give you more even bass throughout the room...
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#109281 - 02/15/06 09:10 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
dae3dae3 Offline
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Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
The EP-500's won't pass the "pipe organ" requirement. :-(
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#109282 - 02/15/06 09:58 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

You should try an EP 600 then. It's in room responce is 15 Hz. That would get you down into the pipe organ territory.
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#109283 - 02/15/06 10:09 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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When you said that you wanted a sub that could do pipe organs and kick drums, I wasn't thinking that you were looking for FLAT to 16Hz.....sorry about that!
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#109284 - 02/15/06 10:12 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
St_PatGuy Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7405
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Have you looked at the ACI Maestro? 15" driver and sealed, and goes down to 18Hz. Just a hair over your budget.
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#109285 - 02/15/06 10:57 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
dae3dae3 Offline
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Registered: 02/03/05
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Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Yeah, I'm not fooling around with wanting 16 Hz FLAT.

I have read about the Maestro but I am worried about output in my room. I currently have an SVS 25-31 PC+ and it's not enough in the room. I can put it in 20 Hz mode for additional extension but then I lose too much output. I am thinking I would need two Maestros for the room.

Stupid Pipe Organs. ;-)
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#109286 - 02/15/06 10:59 AM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

For less than 2K you could go with 4 SVS PB 10s. It seems that would give you the output and the 16Hz your looking for.
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