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#119290 - 12/06/05 07:25 PM Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2146751/300-gb-disc-set-challenge-dvd

This could beat them both. (yes, I'm a computer guy that doesn't know how to make it a link, feel free to fix it)

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#119291 - 12/06/05 07:28 PM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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#119292 - 12/07/05 05:35 PM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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1920x1080 is the holy grail of HD. (It's been the standard HD resolution for ages - despite what TV manufacurers try to sell you.)

These new holographic discs are amazing, but HD-DVD and BlueRay are both capable of holding a full movie at 1920x1080, that much added storage isn't needed for consumer movies.

Those discs are VERY, VERY cool though. I could use something like that here at the office! I play with 5,6, and even 8k images all day. The more storage space the better!




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#119293 - 12/07/05 06:20 PM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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1/3 Terrabyte discs will revolutionize data archiving. We have a 14-slot Automatic Tape Library at work that is barely big enough (at 80GB per tape) to hold our backups. Plus we have a separate 2-slot unit for our email server. When the 300GB discs reach commodity level there will be no reason to buy $8000 libraries and $80 tapes.
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#119294 - 12/07/05 07:10 PM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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LightninJoe,

When 300GB disks reach commodity level, we'll have ways of filling them rather quickly, I'm sure.
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#119295 - 12/07/05 10:07 PM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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In reply to:

I could use something like that here at the office! I play with 5,6, and even 8k images all day.




You know, 8k bytes isn't that big of an image is it?

We are using an STK L180 which holds almost 180 cartridges. Currently using SDLT 320. Each will hold anywhere from about 250 to over 400 GB, depending on the files. Binary images like jpegs and zip files don't compress more than they already are, but the Unix files are all ascii text, so you can get a lot of data on the tape.

This doesn't seem like that much storage to me, but it's all relative. It certainly would be a big step for home use. If it can be cheaper and more reliable than SDLT or LTO tape technology, then look out!


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#119296 - 12/07/05 10:40 PM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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Oooh, me want, me want!

The biggest tape autoloader I get to play with is an HP SSL1016, at 16 LTO-2 (200 GB native) tapes, it holds around 3.75 TB in everyday usage. So far, I haven't gotten my clients to splurge on anything bigger...
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#119297 - 12/08/05 01:17 AM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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As Napoleon Dynamite would say: "Lucky." The ATL and tapes was a big expense for our little company. We tried to talk them into something with more overhead but they just couldn't do it. So in a few months when we're maxed out they'll have to bite the bullet for another ATL, probably starting with one drive. Of course this wouldn't have happened if the Controller hadn't decided she needed a $100K ERP system. Oh well, our source code and documentation are always first priority. When we start telling the Sales folk that we can't back up all of their email and user folders you KNOW money will magically appear. @#$% Sales. On the other hand they DO spend most of their resources on their employees, because a SW engineering company is just a box with computers in it without the people. And our 40 person company is WAY less stressful than Intel was. BTW I can't imagine how long it takes for a 300GB tape to complete a backup. Don't want to either. *sigh* Soon enough. Databases just keep growing and growing and growing. Our source code and doc folders take up only 4GB, most of it docs. The smallest database one of our customers might keep is 20GB. We store copies here for our DBA's to "massage" as they like to put it.
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#119298 - 12/08/05 01:46 AM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Raleigh
Im kinda going off topic here but.. Im not really in a rush for HD-DVD or Blue Ray. My HDMI P-Scan DVD player connected to my 1080p DLP playing a DVD that has been made for 16:9 ratio looks perfect. The image couldnt be any clearer.
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#119299 - 12/08/05 02:16 AM Re: Who needs HD-DVD or Blue Ray?!
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couldnt be any clearer.


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