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#120283 - 12/19/05 02:20 AM Re: High end for iPod
danmagicman7 Offline
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Registered: 12/16/05
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Or, you buy an iRiver MP3 Hard Drive Player with an Optical Line out.
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#120284 - 12/19/05 09:30 AM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 07/23/04
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I just bought my boy an Ipod Nano for christmas. Where do you guys download the songs? Looks like the Itunes are about a buck a piece. That sounds like a rip off to me..........
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#120285 - 12/19/05 12:59 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 05/25/03
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Loc: Menlo Park, CA
iTunes is actually pretty cheap, IMHO. You can find most music there and it's easy to buy/manage w/ iTunes.

Granted, you have to drink the Apple kool-aid (DRM and all).

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#120286 - 12/19/05 01:13 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 05/03/03
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Of course, if you want to put regular old MP3s acquired in ...other ways on your iPod, it can be done. Or rip from your CDs, etc.
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#120287 - 12/19/05 01:37 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 10/28/05
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Apple has the largest, most successful online music store. They are fighting hard to keep the price of songs at $0.99. Steve Jobs responded to RIAA whining that the prices are to low by calling the music industry "greedy." Which of course they are. Think of it this way: The label's have 0 overhead in this model. They simply provide the tunes in digital format. Apple of course has a datacenter for storage and the web store, probably co-located with their main website. I don't know what their take is but I would imagine it to be much less per-song than traditional distribution channels. So 99-cents per song and about a 12-15 song-per-album average and you're talking the same amount per album but lower overhead. And the RIAA folks want to charge more. @#$@ bastards. Anyhoo if you and/or your son have a bunch of CD's you can use iTunes to rip them to the computer and load them on the iPod. I don't think anyone else charges less per song. There is of course, ahem, "other" places to get the songs. Hypothetically speaking I would run such a program through a blind proxy in say Russia to avoid prying eyes. Hypothetically.
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#120288 - 12/19/05 02:28 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 12/10/03
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Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
LightningJoe - it seems I'm picking on you, first with the monkey movie, now with Apple... I'm not, really.

Ahh, remember when Apple made computers? With RISC processors that were faster than the IBM-compatible Intel CISC processors? Starting in 2006 - Apple's using Intel processors.

Remember MacOS? No, not rebranded Linux, but when they wrote their own OS?

Now they make hipster-targeted portable personal players (with a track record about as good Luftschiffbau Zeppelin's) and they resell the heavy-managed use of music under a DRM system that reminds us all that music belongs to Sony/BMG, they just let us live in their world.

"iPod problems" returns 22,000,000 hits on Google. The Register reports Apple has sold 30,000,000 of the units by three-quarters of the way into November... they expect to sell 37,000,000 by year's end.

Bren R.

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#120289 - 12/19/05 02:50 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Forget it, I'm not getting into computer flamewars here...


Edited by kcarlile (12/19/05 02:59 PM)
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#120290 - 12/19/05 03:10 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 10/28/05
Posts: 558
Loc: Portland, OR
I'm not saying they are perfect in any way. DRM is what it is. I'm a bit torn by the issue really. The RIAA is basically crap. But they do have a point TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. And sure songs BOUGHT from ITMS have DRM but you aren't restricted to using only songs from ITMS.

Ah yes, I remember when RISC was relevant. And the classic Mac. No SMP. No PMT. Horrible memory management. Still a nice OS though. I love OSX personally. Real OS (BSD, NOT Linux) underneath, cool MAC GUI on top. Can't get enough of running a shell term on Mac. As far as the switch, well they could contiue to wait while IBM moves at their own pace on product development meanwhile paying a premium for relatively small-production-run chips or start buying commodity chips. The computer industry runs at incredibly thin margins as it is, and this will give Apple some breathing room and probably allow them to get more competitive in system pricing. Plus the new mobile processors from Intel are very nice indeed, thank you very much. More power and less power consumption than any G4 in Powerbook. And where is the mobile G5? Oh yeah, IBM twiddled it's thumbs and never really tried to "mobilize" the G5. Oh well.

As far a iPod problems well I don't think one has exploded on landing killing 68 people. Oh the humanity. Haven't met the perfect MP3 player yet. As far as hipster-targeted, well Apple made the market. Remeber that Steve Jobs considers himself a connoisseur of industrial design. From the Apple II through to the Mac, Powerbook, iMac, Mini, iPod, etc they have always had cutting-edge engineering and elegant design. I don't think the pod is really any different. Just that as General Sherman said they got there "fustest with the mostest."

Finally don't worry about picking on me. I can take it and am as stubborn and opinionated as anyone here. What was that SNL skit? "Who's More Grizzled?"
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#120291 - 12/19/05 05:53 PM Re: High end for iPod
bray Offline
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Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 1791
Loc: Colorado
"I can take it and am as stubborn and opinionated as anyone here."


You dont know Bren very well.






Oooh boooyyyy!!!!







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#120292 - 12/19/05 06:15 PM Re: High end for iPod
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Registered: 10/28/05
Posts: 558
Loc: Portland, OR
Hehe. Yeah, but I'm a grizzled veteran of the UO Football forums. I suffered a year of "51-20" crap from OSU Barkrodents and lived to tell about it. I saw compatriots fall on their swords to protect our honor before the Michigan game in '03 and had my vengeance. I have led charge after futile charge against the "AFLAC" defenses stubbornly put up by forum foes and still I have not been reduced to a quivering, spineless net casualty. This forum at its most uncivilized is as comparatively sophisticated as a character from "The Thin Man." On the football forums half of the people mis-spell their own handles.
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