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#12080 - 06/14/03 01:47 PM
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Registered: 09/25/02
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Loc: Maine
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#12082 - 06/14/03 04:49 PM
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Registered: 05/13/02
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Loc: western canada
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I usually listen to music in Dolby Pro Logic 2: Music as well.
I like the simple signal for the surrounds as an additive component but for some recordings can sometimes collapse the sound a bit into the centre.
Sushi's suggestion of widening the center channel (receiver settings) works well.
My preference would probably still be for a completely 5.1 channel dvd-a or sacd recording if i had such equipment and music.
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#12083 - 06/14/03 09:10 PM
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17374
Loc: NoVA
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Heck, I listen to 2 channel music on my 2.1 system in Dolby Pro Logic 2:Music and it sounds way better than stereo. Love that Dolby!
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#12084 - 06/14/03 09:31 PM
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aficionado
Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 737
Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
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I'm with Haoleb. I bought a highly accurate speaker package so that I could be assured that what I heard was as close to the engineer's intention as possible. Stereo music is engineered with a stereo setup in mind and that is how I listen to it.
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#12085 - 06/14/03 09:52 PM
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Registered: 05/30/03
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#12086 - 06/14/03 11:38 PM
Re: Music listening
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17374
Loc: NoVA
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I'm thinking 10.2 sound is what you prefer, esp with a "Concert Hall" DSP. Right? ;-)
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#12087 - 06/15/03 03:27 AM
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 15984
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
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Semi,
The "as the engineer intended" argument stands up really well on expertly mastered music, but if you hold yourself to that for all music, you're really missing out on the fun! So take that highly accurate speaker package and give DPL II a shot. At worst, you'll hear some highly accurate surround that sounds great, but isn't what the engineer intended. :P
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#12090 - 06/17/03 01:15 AM
Re: Music listening
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Registered: 06/26/02
Posts: 51
Loc: Oxnard, CA
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I've gone from stereo to DPL back to stereo thne I bought my Marantz 4300 and tried the circle surround and hated it. I tried the DPLII and practically fell in love with it. The music mode is hard to beat and if set properly doesn't sound unnatural or overprocessed. I still listen to stereo mode but it does depend on the source material.
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#12092 - 06/17/03 01:56 PM
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newbie
Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2
Loc: Missouri
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Hi Axiom faithful! This is my first post, and it seemed like an appropriate topic to jump in on. First of all, I have been all over the message board for the last several months while putting together my music/HT system for a newly renovated basement rec room/listening area/HT. I am a reenergized audiophile from the late 60's and 70's now discovering the wonders of the new technologies, yet with an appreciation that which is still wonderful from the old.
I want to thank all of you who are well known to me from your myriad and wealth of informative and posts, Masashi (aka sushi), chesseroo, spiffnme, JohnK, pumbuko, BigWill and others too numerous too mention. By now, you all seem like old buddies. Thanks also to Alan for his helpful phone and e-mail contacts and advice.
Before coming on the site, I purchased a Sony str-da2es 6.1x100 avr, and despite all of you ravings about the competitors, I still love it (the price was terrific at a local shop's GOB sale). I then acquired factory outlet qs8's, VP150, M60's and a Hsu-VTF3 thanks to all of your advice and experience. NO REGRETS ON ANYTHING! I am also running a Sony DVP-ns755 which is SACD capable and a tremendous value for the buck (also from the GOB sale).
To those of you still reading this post, I come to the point-Music listening. My favorite source has always been and continues to be vinyl on my prized Linn LP-12 turntable with Rega arm and Linn cartridge. I have begun exploring all my vinyl, running my old Rotel preamp as the phono stage through the AVR, using various surround settings. The verdict is that I love the DPL with the 2 channel source. I have been playing and replaying Maynard Ferguson's MacArthur Park from the MF Horn 1 album in Concert Hall DSP mode as well as other smaller ensembles in Jazz Club, live Concert, etc. The result is no less than stunning. My recommendation, resurrect your vinyl and start playing with DLP for some amazing results.
Thanks again! Scott
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#12093 - 06/17/03 02:50 PM
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axiomite
Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5190
Loc: Los Angeles
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Glad we could help. Did you get the Rosewood Hsu? I soooo want one of those beauties!
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#12094 - 06/17/03 07:08 PM
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newbie
Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2
Loc: Missouri
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No, I am afraid that I went with Basic Black. However, I suspect it sounds nearly as good as the Rosewood. The bass is tight and very musical, not overpowering but satisfying. The neat thing about buying the Hsu was having Dr. Hsu himself answer when I called the info line. Very approachable and affable, just like the Axiom folks.
Save your pennies, get the rosewood and then post to gloat.
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#12095 - 06/18/03 11:15 AM
Re: Music listening
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 115
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri
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Too many tweeters - not enough big drivers - in DPL. Loses richness/depth
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I listened to Broadway music using DPLII mode last night and I have the same conclusion. The VP150 reproduced the majority of the sounds, the M80's reproduced the background music, and there were echoes from the surround speakers.
I prefer the direct mode which uses the M80's supported by the sub.
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