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#125150 - 01/22/06 11:00 PM
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axiomite
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Curtis, that is too cool! This could have awesome potential. Must play with it more.
Thanks for the link!
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#125154 - 01/22/06 11:41 PM
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This is gonna make me hook up my speakers to my computer. My laptop does not make for a good music reproducer.
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#125157 - 01/22/06 11:51 PM
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I like this very much,,,,just signed up for the free service with advertising for now. thanks man  to cool...
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#125158 - 01/22/06 11:53 PM
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I've got the following Stations setup so far:
Classic Rock
Metal
Jazz/Blues
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#125160 - 01/23/06 12:05 AM
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I just put on Leslie West, pretty good Rick.
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#125164 - 01/23/06 10:00 AM
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I've got a lossless wireless audio link ( Airport Express) between my computer and my home theater. I've only been streaming radio stations and my MP3/AAC collection to it until now. This will be a great way to discover new music.
Thanks!
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#125165 - 01/23/06 11:48 AM
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I agree Curtis, my HTPC may have to be completed sooner than planned. Then I can ditch my DVD player. Check out TheaterTek software also, if you have not already, you have full scaling ability and the picture is almost HD for DVD's...
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#125169 - 01/23/06 02:19 PM
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Registered: 05/25/03
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Loc: Menlo Park, CA
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Thanks! VERY cool. Great for those of us who listen at work.
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#125170 - 01/23/06 04:20 PM
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Registered: 11/08/05
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Loc: Holbrook, MA
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This is neat. I started off with Are Friends Electric by Gary Neuman and the Tubeway Army and it knew it. I was a little surprised. The funny thing was when I tried Candy-O by the Cars and it came up with You're All I've Got Tonight by The Cars... still very neat.
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#125171 - 01/23/06 10:15 PM
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I just want to thank Curtis again for finding this website, I am hooked.
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#125172 - 01/23/06 10:17 PM
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It's really fun to mix some totally different artists into the same station and see what it comes up with.
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#125174 - 01/23/06 10:43 PM
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Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 1791
Loc: Colorado
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The page opens for me, but the box that says loading never finishes loading.
Any ideas on what I can do?
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#125175 - 01/23/06 10:51 PM
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Do you have Flash 8 installed?
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#125176 - 01/23/06 10:56 PM
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Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 715
Loc: Burlington, Ontario
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This is really cool, I'll have to hook up my pc to my ht now.
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#125181 - 01/23/06 11:46 PM
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Yep, I use the up/down on the actual record label, or click the "Guide Me" to tailor the direction.
Right now I have the following stations setup:
Oldies 50's 60's
Alternative
Country
Jazz/Blues
Metal
Classic Rock
I started by adding some of my favorites from each category by clicking the down arrow on each station, pretty cool...
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#125184 - 01/24/06 12:16 AM
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Registered: 06/10/04
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Loc: Colorado
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Curtis
Thank YOU!
Peter
Thank you too.
I'm surprised Flash 8 didnt get loaded when I transfered everything from my old iMac.
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#125185 - 01/24/06 12:31 AM
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Where's the classical music? Pandora sucks! Okay, just kidding, but when I'm at the computer I generally make use of this site , which is a compilation of classical stations all over the world(of varying quality, of course)and might be of interest.
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#125188 - 01/24/06 11:23 AM
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Registered: 05/28/03
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That's just it...bluebeat is pre-defined. Pandora defines the set based on criteria on the song or artist you give it....it does not necessarily play that particular artist, and the playlist is built on the fly.
Here is what they do:
http://www.pandora.com/mgp.shtml
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#125189 - 01/24/06 11:54 AM
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Registered: 05/25/03
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Loc: Menlo Park, CA
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question, where does the music actually stream from? Just curious.
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#125190 - 01/24/06 12:07 PM
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 7638
Loc: Tacoma
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Curtis, thank you. That's cool. Ditto on other comments. I'm hooked.
JohnK, you crack me up. And thank you for the referral.
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#125191 - 01/24/06 12:57 PM
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Registered: 05/28/03
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Loc: Manhattan Beach, CA
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In reply to:
question, where does the music actually stream from? Just curious.
You mean the location? I don't know.
I wish I had a nice audio setup here in the office.
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#125192 - 01/24/06 02:16 PM
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I played it though my Axioms last night, and I did notice some significant compression artifacts while listening. Less than the average streaming radio station, but worse than any OTA radio station. I'm not sure if I'd pay for the service knowing this, but I'd definitely use it to discover new music.
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#125193 - 01/24/06 02:21 PM
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Registered: 05/31/05
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Loc: Atlanta
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I have to chime in here and thank Curtis for letting us know about this. I had off from work yesterday a listened all day. I have a feeling this is going to impact my budget and I don't mean paying for the service. I mean buying all this new stuff I'm hearing. On second thought curse you! jk 
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#125194 - 01/24/06 03:22 PM
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Registered: 02/03/04
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Loc: Seattle WA
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I have finally signed up for this (the free not pay) and am mostly doing it in the hopes I'll be turned onto new music that fits what I like.
very nice
Their main office is in Oakland CA (sadly they are not hiring IT people right now since I live in SF).
-jr
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#125195 - 01/24/06 04:04 PM
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Registered: 05/28/03
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Loc: Manhattan Beach, CA
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In reply to:
I played it though my Axioms last night, and I did notice some significant compression artifacts while listening. Less than the average streaming radio station, but worse than any OTA radio station. I'm not sure if I'd pay for the service knowing this, but I'd definitely use it to discover new music.
I also hear artifacts....some songs are worse than others, but I will gladly accept them over any FM radio station and accompanying commercials and playlists. For me, I love discovering great new music that suits my tastes.
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#125196 - 01/24/06 04:53 PM
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I agree curtis, many of the songs sound very good.
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#125197 - 01/24/06 06:41 PM
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#125198 - 01/24/06 06:57 PM
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Posts: 562
Loc: Atlanta
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Leslie West back in the day was the front man and lead guitar player for a group called Mountain. I saw them a couple of times. Good stuff. I had no idea he was still kicking it out. That's assuming it is the same guy. But then how many Leslie Wests can there be?
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#125200 - 01/24/06 08:08 PM
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Posts: 562
Loc: Atlanta
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Happpy to oblige!
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#125201 - 01/24/06 08:10 PM
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Registered: 05/31/05
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Loc: Atlanta
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Gotta get that sticky key taken care of.
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#125202 - 01/24/06 08:18 PM
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#125203 - 01/24/06 08:29 PM
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Registered: 12/12/03
Posts: 1424
Loc: Western Canada
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In reply to:
That's just it...bluebeat is pre-defined. Pandora defines the set based on criteria on the song or artist you give it....it does not necessarily play that particular artist, and the playlist is built on the fly.
Here is what they do:
http://www.pandora.com/mgp.shtml In reply to:
Pandora, BlueBeat and all the others that do this are reading tags......thus playing music via the tag information. There is no voo doo or fancy foot work going on here. It's based on the tag information given and not much else.
I understand that someone can get very creative with the genre listed in the tag but no matter how you slice it, it's been pre-selected via one method or another.
Don't get me wrong here, I think this is very cool and has kick ass potential, but in it's current form I don't have a lot of use for it when BlueBeat has a significantly larger library and is broadcasting at a much higher bit rate with no noticeable artifacts.
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#125204 - 01/24/06 08:58 PM
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Registered: 05/31/05
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Loc: Atlanta
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Your one sick dude. I guess I left myself wide open for that.
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#125205 - 01/24/06 10:22 PM
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Registered: 05/28/03
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I think that is what I am getting at...it isn't just a single genre tag for Pandora...it is many different criteria.
Bluebeat may have a larger library...that is fair...but the one genre tag can itself be many different styles in itself. With Pandora, you have much more control over the type of music in your defined "station".
If you like Bluebeat better...I can't argue with you....kinda like speakers.
Edited by curtis (01/24/06 10:23 PM)
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#125207 - 01/24/06 11:48 PM
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6691
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
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I tried the Bluebeat site and it sucks royal.
Not really I haven't even tried it. Hey John
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#125209 - 01/25/06 01:02 PM
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Registered: 05/21/05
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In reply to
Their main office is in Oakland CA (sadly they are not hiring IT people right now since I live in SF).
I think they are infact looking for someone for their IT Dept., not sure what exact profile, but I remember seeing the information on one of their links. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to look for the link now as I am at work and like most of the fun sites, Pandora is blocked too
Curtis:
Thanks a lot for the website man, it rocks! Yeh, like a few others mentioned, it does not have a very extensive classical selection though. But I think it's just a matter of getting the search parameters right - Was a little funny when a search for 'yo yo ma' turned up a hip-hop artist with a penchant for colorful language!
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#125211 - 01/25/06 04:01 PM
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 2177
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
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definitely a big thanks for the rec, it's a great site.
I've upgraded my headphones to the Ultimate Ears super.fi 5EB. Bass is definitely pronounced, I can see where others might think too much but I'm OK w/ it. MUCH better soundstaging than my Sony EX71's. I also ordered a pair of Xtrememac FS1's (by Future Sound) so I can have a "headphone off". Should get them soon, I'll post my thoughts.
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#125214 - 01/30/06 05:59 PM
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I discovered a "limitation" of pandora today while trying to burn through a bunch of tracks to help tune a station to my liking. I just got the following error:
Unfortunately, our music licenses force us to limit the number of times you may skip songs each hour.
I think I skipped 4 or 5, but can't be sure. That seems pretty restrictive.
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#125215 - 01/30/06 06:22 PM
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Registered: 12/30/03
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The FAQ has the explanation, Peter.
Q: Can I skip as many songs as I'd like if I subscribe?
No. Our licenses do not allow unlimited skips per hour. The idea here is that you should not be able to skip ahead to find exactly the song you might be looking for. An unlimited number of skips could effectively provide "track on demand" which is not allowed in a streaming radio product.
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#125218 - 01/31/06 12:21 PM
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The "I don't like it" skips count as regular skips.
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#125219 - 01/31/06 01:21 PM
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You can always press f5 and reload the page if you don't like a song.
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#125221 - 01/31/06 01:28 PM
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Sometimes I have discovered that it might play the same song twice if you do that, but still, that hardly happens for me. And, when you use up your "don't like it's" it's refining your music tastes anyways from before.
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#125222 - 01/31/06 10:58 PM
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It is cutting out on me tonight, currently listening to Kate McGarry, never heard of her, but it is cutting out. I have 1.5MB DSL, hmmmm.
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#125223 - 01/31/06 11:05 PM
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Well just changed to my 50's-60's station and The Beach Boys, Roy Orbison, and Del Shannon are playing fine...
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#125228 - 03/02/06 09:24 PM
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Registered: 05/28/03
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Pandora now works with the Squeezebox!!!!
In reply to:
Dear Slim Devices Customer,
We're excited to announce that we've added support for Pandora, an amazing music service, to SqueezeNetwork for Squeezebox2 and Squeezebox v3 owners.
Pandora is a music discovery service that lets you create custom stations based on your favorite songs or artists. If you haven't experienced Pandora, I recommend that you visit <http://www.pandora.com> and try it out on your computer.
The first time I used Pandora on my Squeezebox, I was glued to my listening chair the entire weekend. Since Pandora is part of SqueezeNetwork, you can even listen to it without your computer being on.
To try it out with your Squeezebox, log on to <http://www.squeezenetwork.com/> and sign up for a trial Pandora account by clicking on the Pandora link on the top-right of the page. Then use your remote to connect your Squeezebox to SqueezeNetwork and browse into Pandora Radio.
I have more good news. Squeezebox v3 and Squeezebox2 owners can listen FREE to Pandora for 90-days. US-based customers can continue their Pandora service for only $36 per year.
This is truly a "killer app".
Cheers,
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Listening to it now! Excellent!
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#125232 - 04/29/06 01:55 PM
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Man, I've got a wireless G network setup now. My main DSL router is upstairs. I"m down in the basement, cranking up some Poison on Pandora on my Axioms, man it sounds so good, I can't believe it....The 500 is rocking.
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#125233 - 04/29/06 02:14 PM
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Wow, if Axioms can make Poison sound good...
I keed, I keed...
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#125234 - 04/30/06 03:41 AM
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Registered: 12/10/03
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In reply to:
Wow, if Axioms can make Poison sound good...
See, now you're sticking to the pecking order, can only make fun of those below you on the chart...
Classical > Jazz > Old School Punk > New School Punk > Industrial > Rock > Crossover > Metal > Pop > Black Metal > Rap > Hip Hop > Children's Entertainment > White Noise > Wesley Willis > Ska > Glam
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#125235 - 04/30/06 12:11 PM
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Oh, no, glam is way better than ska. Plus you forgot Christian rock.
All right, all right, I'm also a kettle...
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