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#135126 - 04/09/06 03:55 PM Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
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Registered: 04/09/06
Posts: 28
Loc: Rochester, NY
I have M3Tis being driven by a NAD C320BEE (with C542 for CD source, and soon to hopefully be a Rega P2 through a NAD PP-2 for vinyl with an eventual preamp upgrade). I've not heard the M22s much but overall I like the warmer midrange sound of the M3s and the smooth detailed response they have when mated with the NAD...

But now I want to extend and improve my bass a little. Without a dedicated sub out and crossover options I'd really like a sub that had high-pass options to control what bass the M3s will be responsible for but I'm not sure how necessary that will ultimately be.

I've looked at the HSU STF-1 and the Outlaw LFM-2 as a couple possibilities. This is going in my bedroom which is about 12x14x7 or so feet and more importantly I'm on a budget as a graduate student and would like to keep it under $500. I'm not looking for tons of bass, I listen to rock mainly (classic and new) and just want to enhance my bottom end a little.

I've seen a lot of threads on the topic, most say the M22tis are better when matched with a sub. I found them a bit brighter than the M3s so I'm hoping to find a nice balance that will compliment the M3s well.
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#135127 - 04/09/06 04:01 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6722
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

This sub doesn't have the high pass you are looking for but it is an incredible value. My son has one in his bedroom and it does a wonderful job for him.

BTW the Hsu and Outlaw subs doesn't have high pass either.
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#135128 - 04/09/06 04:08 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
emorphien Offline
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Registered: 04/09/06
Posts: 28
Loc: Rochester, NY
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I realized none of those subs have high pass, and I may not be so lucky in my budget. I don't know how absolutely necessary it is, given that the M3s are quite capable of handling the bass load it may not be so bad leaving them as they are currently.

I've looked at that AV123 sub briefly and have considered it as well actually. Currently I'm probably most interested in the Outlaw sub of the three (it's essentially a revised STF-1 by Dr. Hsus own word).


Edited by emorphien (04/09/06 04:09 PM)
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#135129 - 04/09/06 04:09 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
Gena Offline
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Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 120
This is a combination M22+x-sub I'm thinking about to install for upstairs, mainly for stereo listening. I wish I could listen to it before buying. On the other hand, what have I got to loose? I can always ship it back. Anybody knows about how good AV123 return policy is?

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#135130 - 04/09/06 04:11 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

From my understanding they are on par with Axiom. That would make for a sweet set up Gena.
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#135131 - 04/09/06 04:21 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
emorphien Offline
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Registered: 04/09/06
Posts: 28
Loc: Rochester, NY
Hmm it really seems those remain the three main recommendations in that price range in spite of the lack of high pass filters.

I just wish I could read more on the AV123 X-sub and get some more feel for it from reviews. I know the HSU and Outlaw are both good subs.
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#135132 - 04/09/06 04:56 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
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Registered: 12/03/05
Posts: 212
Loc: Southern California
All have good customer service reps. Good quality reps ... price or look might be the decider if it were me.

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#135133 - 04/09/06 05:53 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
emorphien Offline
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Registered: 04/09/06
Posts: 28
Loc: Rochester, NY
Another sub I've read up on some is the Mirage S8, $200 from amazon and seems to be reasonably well liked. As a brand I'd be more trusting of Outlaw or Hsu though.

No rush, if anyone's got some input I'd love to hear it. I'm tackling a turntable first.
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#135134 - 04/09/06 05:58 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
The STF-1 sounds like a really good bet for your needs. Even the STF-2 is under your $500 budget. You could email Hsu and see if they have any b-stock models available.


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#135135 - 04/09/06 06:20 PM Re: Looking for a sub to mate with M3Ti and NAD
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Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 16
Loc: Chicagoland area, IL
Have you looked at the AV123 Outlaw Rocket ULW-10 (499.00)? I am looking at a M2i w/ the Rocket UFW-10, but I will not be able to comment for them for about 4-6 weeks (lead time for custom wood M2i's).



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