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#137587 - 05/08/06 07:59 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
ratpack Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1155
Loc: Alabama
stone: you may be missing something in your analysis. Look in the instruction manuals for some of your electronic gear for the "disclaimers." I think that you will find that the manufacturer states that they have the right to make changes to the product at any time. And, I don't think that you will find a version 2 or 3 or 4, etc on the revised product.

In short, I don't think that warrants any big deal. Matter of fact, it is NO big deal to me!!
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#137588 - 05/08/06 10:12 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
Amie Offline
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Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 1620
Stone__Man;

As I explained to you in the last post on this topic, there have been innumerable changes to the product since it launched, and we felt that it was time to make a designation on the website. Although it is clear that the changes to the product were insignificant to you, they wouldn't be to every customer.

The original M80ti


The original VP150


The Original QS4


The Original EP350


Changes are made at Axiom to improve the performance of speakers. From time to time we also make cosmetic improvements to the speakers. Since the Millennia line was launched, we have made improvements to the tweeters, woofers, crossovers, inputs, and amplifiers. We have never been of the opinion that we should introduce a new model number with every change, however, at this point, so many changes had been introduced since the original speakers were launched that it seemed time to call it another generation. I understand that we won't all have the same opinion on this, but to imply that we are trying to fool our customers? Deplorable.

Axiom prides itself on being a research company. Our heritage is research, and when we find that we can increase performance, efficiency or appearance on a model, we implement the change - we don't hold on to the old style until we can change the whole line - we put forward our best foot every day. It is a huge advantage of designing, engineering and manufacturing your own product, and one that we are very proud of.

I understand that there are companies who think research means buying a marketing report from the Consumer Electronics Association. That is not now, nor will it ever be, how we operate at Axiom. Every employee at Axiom is involved in listening tests and experiments - and even guests of ours who post on this message board have been involved in the tests. We are constantly striving to better our products.

Henry Ford was pleased to offer cars in any color the customer wanted - as long as it was black. Many speaker manufacturers share that opinion. We offer four standard finishes, designed to suit a variety of decors. But we're loudspeaker manufacturers, not decorators - so we offer additional finishes that you can order to suit your own decor. We don't stock them - but we are happy to special-order them in for our customers and custom-build products that will make the visual aspect of our product as exciting as the audio aspect - for their tastes.

There are companies who make all their product decisions sitting around in a boardroom without ever listening to their products - or their customers. That is not now, nor will it ever be, the case at Axiom. If you are really concerned about 'getting the truth', please take some time to read about our research and our commitment to development - or even book your next vacation here in the most beautiful part of Canada. Take a plant tour - actually LISTEN to our products - and then decide what you think about our company. Until then, I respectfully ask you to refrain from casting aspersions on the ethics of myself, my husband and our company.
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#137589 - 05/08/06 10:27 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
Tharkun Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 1039
Loc: Tracy, California
Amie -
Thank you for taking time away from Axiom work to make this post, perhaps it will help clear up some confusion for those who have not had the option of visiting the Axiom factory, meeting you, Ian and the Axiom team. Those of us that have been able to make the trip have the advanatge of understading the operation a bit more than most , and know first hand the type of people that work for Axiom, and the dedication they give to entire Axiom line of products. !!!
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#137590 - 05/08/06 10:46 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
Ajax Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6252
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
WOW!
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#137591 - 05/08/06 11:13 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
bugbitten Offline
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Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 2339
Loc: Madisonville, KY
Way to go Aime!

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#137592 - 05/08/06 11:28 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
MarkSJohnson Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10942
Loc: Central NH
Waaaaaayyy more diplomatic than I!
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#137593 - 05/08/06 11:32 AM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
HomeDad Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 3301
Loc: Central,California
Ahmen Amie , I just hope the time you took to respond isn't wasted on deaf ears, as it seems most the good advice and suggestions thrown his way have been, just my opinion though.
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#137594 - 05/08/06 02:41 PM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
HAY Offline
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Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 720
Loc: Burlington, Ontario
Great post.

I felt a little bad after one of my posts to stone man, not my normal thing. But after all his other posts it seemed fitting.
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#137595 - 05/08/06 02:48 PM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
ratpack Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1155
Loc: Alabama
Amie: that was an excellent post that members should "keep handy." I suspect that there will be other times that the same words will comfort a newbie.
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#137596 - 05/08/06 03:59 PM Re: Axiom now lists V2 on website
Tharkun Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 1039
Loc: Tracy, California
Well it may very well be to soon to be sure, but he may very well have no intention in making further posts. Since he has rather insulted the Axiom company and accused forum members as being to biased to be trusted in any recomendations they make, could be the last words we hear from him.
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