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#1420 - 02/06/02 01:10 PM Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
duff Offline
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Is the more expensive speaker wire better? What would you recommend for the axiom speaker, particularly the m22's? I would have to imagine a $400 pair is better than a radio shack bulk wire, but is say $200 bettercables, analysis plus, kimber kable, etc speaker cables better than $30 monster bulk speaker cable?



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#1421 - 02/06/02 02:21 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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Has there not been enough comment on this? Ian and others like BBIBH have provided thoughts, ideas and comments on both sides of the fence.

You should search the posts for the answers, or as other people have said, which sounded better to you?



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#1422 - 02/06/02 04:08 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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hasn't there been enough info and comments on axiom speakers on this site? maybe we should stop discussing them as well.
i was just looking for another experts opinion



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#1423 - 02/06/02 06:54 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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Hello duff,

I'd recommend conventional generic--Radio Shack, etc; even Monster has some reasonably priced bulk wire--12-gauge to 14-gauge cable to connect your M22's. At that gauge, you could have cable runs of 20 to 50 feet with no significant alteration of resistance, and that's what counts.

As to expensive cable, I call it audio jewelry; if it looks pretty (and some of it does) and costs plenty, then of course you'll think it "sounds" better. But, in fact, electrons don't know whether they're traveling in expensive Monster, Kimber, or in low-cost generic copper. They move at the speed of light, and copper is copper, you know what I mean?

The branded Kimber and the like is okay if you'd rather spend large sums on cable than on good CDs or upgrading other components in your system. Will it make any difference to the sound of your system? No.

When individuals who believe differences in cable are asked to distinguish different cables in blind listening tests, the results have been utterly random. In extended listening tests conducted at the National Research Council in Ottawa, I have never heard any difference in branded or generic cables. Nor has a world-regarded Canadian scientist and past president of the Audio Engineering Society, Dr. Floyd Toole.

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#1424 - 02/06/02 07:13 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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so I imagine I not not need to bother getting spades or banana connectors for my inexpensive speaker cable. Is this a correct assumption. If they come packaged together with the monster cable should i bother using them?



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#1425 - 02/06/02 08:20 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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Alan,

That is the most straight forward and honest pieces of advice I have heard in a long time. Thanks.



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#1426 - 02/06/02 09:02 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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Let's all name drop...shall we!

Did you not call another guy cavalier for suggesting things could affect sound?

Another ink stained wretch with nothing better to do than pander to the masses......



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#1427 - 02/07/02 02:41 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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The spades or banana plugs also serve to make a good contact, and allow easier disconnection and reconnection. By fastening (soldering, crimping) all strands into a connector, you ensure all of the cable is properly secured. Stray strands have been known to short on speaker and amp binding posts. This would not be good!

While they may not have an affect on the sound, they are a good idea for a solid electrical and mechanical connection.

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#1428 - 02/10/02 08:58 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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My brother-in-law and I auditioned a $600, 10' TransparentCable "Music Wave" and $200+ 10' pair of TransparentCable the music wave 100. Honestly we could not tell the difference between the two. We also heard no difference between them and the $6.00 10' pair Home Depot wire. Some people maybe able to tell, but if I can't, that's what matters. So I can save my money for a new turntable!



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#1429 - 02/10/02 09:10 PM Re: Alan, Can you give any insight on speaker wire?
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Solid logic on your part! You are correct, it is your hard earned money, and if you don't hear the difference, make the correct choice and go the sane route.

Besides, think of how nice a Rega 3 will sound in your system! It will make a bigger difference than the expensive cable.

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