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#144906 - 08/05/06 10:45 PM Room Acoustics
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This is going to be an eventual thing for me, after I buy the rest of my gear and prepare to move the home theater into the basement, but I've been skimming through Audioholics.com, and they advertise the acoustical consultation of Rives Audio. Has anyone here actually paid for their services? I would like to make my room the best listening environment possible, and I don't see myself learning enough to make that happen. I'm wondering what you all have done to improve your room's acoustics.

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#144907 - 08/05/06 10:54 PM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: CV]
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I'm wondering what you all have done to improve your room's acoustics.




Bought some headphones.
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#144908 - 08/05/06 10:58 PM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: CV]
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Charles, on a serious note, I bought some little triangle thingies that go in the corner. I have a small room, and the corner treatments help to tame some of the bass boominess. Also helps deaden the echo in the room. Noticeable even when I make noise and talk.

Others have looked into room acoustics more than I have, and am sure they will chime in.
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#144909 - 08/06/06 12:24 AM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: CV]
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If I put a serious home theater in the basement in the future (didn't have budget to finish the basement now) I will definitely call Rives in. I was VERY tempted to bring them in for the initial construction of the house but I was very tight for budget and the schedule was pretty tight, so I didn't think there would be time to work out any significant changes with the builder.

There is a high end audio site where a number of the regulars have used Rives and were very satisfied. It might be one of the audiogon forums, not sure. All I can say is that I have heard lots of good and no bad about them.

Regarding treatments, the dimensions were poor and the bass response very uneven, so my first step was going to be loading the room down with bass traps. Fortunately, I ended up moving to a new house and was able to participate in the design, and the acoustics in the new room are much better.

Do a search here on "superchunk" and you will find a few threads from Randy (sirquack) regarding his recent adventures with room treatments. A number of other people also offered comments about their own experiences.

Sorry I don't have more to offer. I can tell you that some experiments I conducted with a bedroom system -- mostly treating reflections at the sides and behind the listening position -- had an astounding affect on imaging and perceived quality of the sound. I was using pillows and blankets, nothing fancy, but the results really surprised me.


Edited by bridgman (08/06/06 12:27 AM)

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#144910 - 08/06/06 02:48 AM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: CV]
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Charles I added a pair of GIK Acoustics Tri-Traps to my room and can tell a difference, whenever I get the opportunity (a break from work) I'll graph the room. I refer to the Rives site quite often and would certainly use their services, our speakers are setup using their recommendations and the current placement is the best they have ever sounded as far as soundstage and imaging. Whenever I get some time away from work this winter I'll dig further into the treatments and may even use the Rives services ... right now I just don't have the time.

Tri-Traps installed in room


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#144911 - 08/06/06 10:38 AM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: RickF]
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My research has shown you can't have enough bass traps. First Reflection Zone treatments will be my next venture, as soon as I build my rear bass trap columns. Need to make the wife happy and she doesn't want me to do superchunks in the rear. For the ceiling/wall corners on the ceiling I'll most likely use 4" thick OC703 staddeling the corners. 2" 703 for the RFZ.

I would also recommend downloading the FREE Real Traps tones which span from 10hz to 300hz in 1hz increments, those are the graphs I show in my superchunk thread below yours.

I'm experimenting right now with Room EQ Wizzard, which is a free download from Home Theater Shack. I think it is as good as ETF, a purchased product.
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#144912 - 08/06/06 10:46 AM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: SirQuack]
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another good read for everyone..

http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html
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#144913 - 08/06/06 01:46 PM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: St_PatGuy]
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Registered: 01/24/05
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Loc: Fla. Orig. Mich.
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Quote:

I'm wondering what you all have done to improve your room's acoustics.




Bought some headphones.




Yeah!! No "bad rooms" with cans! And now that I have some new clothes with bigger pockets large enough to put a reasonable PCDP into, my "Good Room" follows me everywhere!

In reality I have managed to make my room a little better in the last couple of years, it's still a far cry from our old house, but Gramma won't let me rip out the fireplace.

I don't have a problem with bass, I've got the bass really well integrated; it's the reflections that have me up the wall.

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#144914 - 08/07/06 09:36 AM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: F107plus5]
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Since the original question was partly "what have you done to improve room acoustics" I think you should at least be mentioning the moose head

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#144915 - 08/07/06 09:52 AM Re: Room Acoustics [Re: F107plus5]
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There are many recording engineers that would tell you a studio with proper bass traps and treatments is much better for many reasons over headphones.
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