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#147276 - 09/10/06 04:23 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: drew88]
SirQuack Offline
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13339
Loc: Iowa
Hi Drew and welcome.

Bose is not even in the same league as Axiom, or most other speaker mfg's for that matter. Axiom is audiophile grade, and Bose, at least the Bose of today, is basically an over priced product where your paying for a name. There was a time back in the 60's-70's where Bose made an OK product, but no more.

Think about it, do you really think small cube speakers can give you as good as performance/sound stage as full range audiophile speakers? Is a Chevette as good as a Corvette.

Honestly, your basically comparing apples to oranges. I hope you don't waste your money. Just my 2 cents. Also, if you spend some time on other forums, like AVSforum, you won't get much positive feedback for Bose either. Sorry.
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#147277 - 09/10/06 04:25 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: bugbitten]
danmagicman7 Offline
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Registered: 12/16/05
Posts: 1467
I laughed when I saw the title.

I laughed even more when I figured out someone was being serious.

It's nothing personal, but to any audiophile it is such an OBVIOUS decision.

What I got for 2 grand will BLOW whatever Bose has to offer OUT OF THE WATER.

For 2 grand with Axiom, you will get a system that is better than ANY theater you have been to (besides IMAX). 2 Grand with Bose, and you can say you have a surround sound system in your living room. That's it though.

Brother, let me introduce you to the light: Axiom.

Good luck!
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#147278 - 09/10/06 04:31 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: drew88]
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Loc: Iowa
Drew, you may also want to consider one of Axiom's bookshelf speakers. The m2's, m3's, or the great m22's would run circles around Bose, and you WILL get that WOW effect compared to what your used to. Throw a sub in with some 2's, 3's, or 22's, and you would have a killer system. I would also consider getting either the Qs4's or Qs8's for the left/right surrounds, I don't think you'll find anything better for surround effects. You definately can get an awesome receiver between $500-$900 or so that will easily drive any of the Axiom speakers.

Where do you live, you might want to see if one of us can give you an audition?

Talk to you later.
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#147279 - 09/10/06 04:42 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: SirQuack]
drew88 Offline
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Registered: 09/10/06
Posts: 110
I live in Queens, NY. I would love to hear if someone has a set up similar to the one I'm getting. I'm particularly interested in hearing what the EP350 has to offer, I am considering purchasing an EP500 if it does not satisfy me. Thank you all very much, I was already leaning on the Axioms, but now I am quite set on them.

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#147280 - 09/10/06 05:31 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: drew88]
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Registered: 01/29/04
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Loc: Iowa
Well, if you check the audition thread, http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/showfla...e=0&fpart=1
there are a few people in NY, ditcin is the only one that has posted recently. Not sure if there is any surrounding areas close to you in other states?

Just send someone a PM and say your interested in a listen. I will tell you this much, my HT room is almost 900 sq. ft., I used to have a 350 and it did fine, however, the 500 is in a whole other league. It may blow your walls down.
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#147281 - 09/10/06 05:57 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: drew88]
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3913
Loc: Up yonder
Any Axiom speaker will sound vastly superior to the Bose Lifestyle systems, even to those who have absolutely no idea what the hell the word ‘soundstage’ means.

I say this with complete confidence because I was exactly where you are a couple years ago. I wasn’t about to spring for so much as a thousand bucks for a sound system. I thought they were all over priced. So I bought a little HTIB system from Costco for about $400. Then the receiver went tits up on me so I bought a new receiver. Quite an overkill for the little speakers, but I got a HK 7200 for a steal. The speakers sounded much, much better…..till I smoked them. Then I was wandering through Sams Club one day and low and behold, they had the Bose cubes and bass module on sale for about $600!! Acoustmas 10’s I think (twin drivers that swivel). Wow! What a difference they made over the little piece of crap speakers I smoked. Those little suckers really put out an amazing amount of sound for being sooooo small. But the bass was lacking big time so I bought an Outlaw sub and ran the speakers directly to the HK. Holy crap!! Another huge jump in sound…….

Then I bought some M80’s for a two channel system and another sub. I was again floored at how great they sounded compared the other system. No comparison between the M80’s and the cubes. The cubes were pathetic in comparison. Out of curiosity’s sake, I hefted the M80’s upstairs and tried them as mains in the HT system just to see how much difference there could be between them and the cubes for movies. I was done by this point……I picked up the phone and ordered more Axioms to fill out a 7.1 system and another set of speakers for the two channel system.

I figure I wasted about $1000 being stubborn and believing all the Bose propaganda. There really is no comparison to any of the little farts on the market to a real speaker and a good sub. The little squirts may have their place, but it isn’t in HT where the user wants that “wow” factor when watching movies or listening to tunes.

When you get a good system, you’ll find that the remote is one of the first things you look for whenever you plan on being in the same room as your system for a while. When I’m home, music is always playing. I even find times when I do nothing but listen to a song which is something I’ve not ever done before. I’m not known for sitting still very long.
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#147282 - 09/10/06 11:20 PM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: drew88]
HomeDad Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 3301
Loc: Central,California
drew88 Welcome, I'm also a former Bose owner, when I had them I thought they were great, and as John pointed out they do a good job of blending unobtrusively into the room and sound pretty good if you haven't listened to anything that would be considered audiophile quality.
Once I got my Axioms it was literally like I was hearing some of my music for the first time. Since then I've virtually re-listened and re-watched all my cd's and movies. Most important was I got the Wow factor after my wife heard them
The 60's should be fine for your room, I'm using 80's and my couch is about 9 feet from my tv also.
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#147283 - 09/11/06 10:02 AM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: HomeDad]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
Posts: 6402
Loc: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Like mdrew and HomeDad, I also went from Bose to Axiom. The Bose looks great but lacks bass punch. Still, it gave me years of agreeable sound.

The Axiom system sounds better in many ways. I'm still calibrating, as the room is a BIIIIGGGG factor in the sound. Regardless, the Axioms have provided "WOW" moments, especially in movies. They have better clarity and can be played much louder. I think at times I was expecting more "WOW", but I am impressed with the overall clean nature of the sound. Plus, it's hard for the Axioms to grab the Wow Factor (TM) from the visuals of my new HT. Imagine, if you will, going from a 32" CRT to an 88" HiDef screen.

But I agree with everyone - unless your need for aesthetics demands little cubes, go for the Axioms. And the EP500. It'll knock you around, but you'll like it and ask for more.
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#147284 - 09/11/06 10:23 AM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: drew88]
inthedeck Offline
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Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 164
Quote:

I live in Queens, NY. I would love to hear if someone has a set up similar to the one I'm getting. I'm particularly interested in hearing what the EP350 has to offer, I am considering purchasing an EP500 if it does not satisfy me. Thank you all very much, I was already leaning on the Axioms, but now I am quite set on them.




I live in Port Chester, NY...depending on where you are in Queens, it's a hop, skip, and jump away from any one of the bridges -- Throggs Neck, Whitestone, and the Triborough. Let me know if you are interested...and we can set something up for the evening/weekend.

Though I don't have the combination that you might want to invest in, I do have this: 2xM80's, 1xVP150, 1xEP600, 4xQS8's, HK AVR-7300, Xbox 360, and a Sony DVD/SACD Player. So, basically, you will be covered from all aspects in HD (movies, games), sound - axioms, and any kind of music you listen to...of course, you may bring your own selection...

Anyway...good luck with your decision...and again, PM me, if this is something you are interested in. See ya.

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#147285 - 09/11/06 11:03 AM Re: Bose or Axiom? [Re: inthedeck]
rgold1963 Offline
frequent flier

Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Washington
I just set up my Axiom speakers last week. I replaced a Bose Lifestyle 12 system that I had for 11 years. I can't put into words the difference between the two. I have had a huge grin on my face all weekend while listening to my old cd's and watching music dvd's that I had listened to and watched many times before but know it's like I am hearing and seeing them for the first time. There is simply no comparison. By the way.... I know where you can get a cheap Bose system right now!
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