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#150662 - 11/02/06 12:38 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: Hutzal]
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17420
Loc: NoVA
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Done to death. It's a popular concept around here, but Ian doesn't seem to be taking people's suggestions. 
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#150663 - 11/02/06 01:18 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: Ken.C]
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axiomite
Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 7682
Loc: Tacoma
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It's fun to speculate, but I have absolute faith that - if such a design made sense sonically and financially - we'd have it already.
Axiom is an R&D company. Ian has been a successful professional speaker designer for decades. I'm going to trust him to design his products and run his company while I continue to enjoy listening to my M60's.
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#150664 - 11/02/06 01:28 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: Hutzal]
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connoisseur
Registered: 01/29/02
Posts: 3128
Loc: Toronto/New York/Dwight
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Hutzal,
Your first suggestion already exists--it's the M60, except it has two 6.5-inch woofers. The 5.25-inch driver is a woofer/midrange unit, covering upper bass from 200 Hz up to a good chunk of the midrange. At 2 kHz, the 5.25 crosses over to the tweeter.
Using dual 6.5-inch woofers below 200 Hz enables more powerful bass output, and deeper bass as well as better power handling. The two woofers are roughly equivalent to a single 12-inch woofer in an enclosure of similar volume, but using two smaller enable much better control ("tighter") than would be the case using a large-diameter woofer. You can also make the enclosure narrower and less overwhelming.
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#150665 - 11/02/06 02:27 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: alan]
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connoisseur
Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 3600
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
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Quote:
The two woofers are roughly equivalent to a single 12-inch woofer in an enclosure of similar volume, but using two smaller enable much better control ("tighter") than would be the case using a large-diameter woofer.
I'll be bookmarking this one for my "of two drivers of identical materials, a larger one will move more air, go deeper, yet a smaller one will sound tighter and react more efficiently to source material" aka the "farty bass" conversation.
Bren R.
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#150667 - 11/02/06 04:32 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: Hutzal]
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enthusiast
Registered: 05/29/06
Posts: 30
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
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As an M50 owner, I must say: "Leave the 50's alone!" I love 'em just as they are...  I bet such a 3-way speaker would be more expensive than the M50's, since the cost difference of a 5.25" driver vs. the 6.5" driver must now include a more complicated crossover design.
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#150668 - 11/02/06 05:07 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: BrenR]
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axiomite
Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6695
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
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#150669 - 11/02/06 06:07 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: Wid]
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connoisseur
Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 3600
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
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:D
Can anyone tell by my post count that it was a slow day at work?
So this is how Peter feels. 
Bren R.
Edited by BrenR (11/02/06 06:08 PM)
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#150670 - 11/02/06 10:29 PM
Re: M50s with 5.25" woofer?
[Re: BrenR]
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16015
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
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I used to resemble that remark. You'll notice that, oh, about June -- coinciding with my job transfer -- the rate of my posting decreased significantly. I pretty much only have time for snarks now.
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