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#160569 - 03/04/07 01:05 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: bridgman]
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Registered: 12/30/03
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To that end, I might suggest you move the seating position a couple of feet closer to the back wall, move the TV and front speakers further into the room as well, and position the surrounds just BEHIND the second window rather than between the windows.



Assuming he has the leeway (and permission ) to do this, that's a great suggestion, John. May I also say, John, that it's very good to have you back on the forum. Your contributions are substantial.
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#160570 - 03/04/07 02:47 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: Ajax]
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: TN
Wow! Great suggestions. Thank you all so much.

Bridgman, thanks for taking the time to even illustrate it.

Amazing how nobody knows me, but so many are putting in their time to help me.

Wife wants bookshelves. I couldn't care less for shelves, but after they are up, MY speakers go where I want them. So the advice to move the watching position and surrounds backwards will be heeded.

Axiom forum folk are awesome! Let's hope the Axiom speakers will be awesome.

Regards,
Rodney
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#160571 - 03/04/07 03:49 PM Re: M22s or M60s? (Picture Heavy Link) [Re: ndevagup]
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Raj,

First of all, you need to use the "img" tag. Secondly, we have no way to view your c: drive. As homedad stated, you need to upload your pictures to a service we would have access to, unless you have a website.
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#160572 - 03/04/07 03:53 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: Rodney]
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Amazing how nobody knows me, but so many are putting in their time to help me.





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#160573 - 03/04/07 05:56 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: Rodney]
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Registered: 02/19/07
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Amazing how nobody knows me, but so many are putting in their time to help me.





I agree. I just ordered a set of speakers a week or so ago and was so excited that I posted what amounts to several "fanboy" messages on the forums. The guys razzed me a bit about it, but I don't mind. It was the quality of the Axiom speakers that put them on the short list. It was the community that sealed the deal. Much, much different from the "Blade Runner-esque" feel of those other, much larger, AV forums.
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#160574 - 03/05/07 11:44 AM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: Rodney]
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Axiom forum folk are awesome! Let's hope the Axiom speakers will be awesome.




I know they will

Welcome Rodney!
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#160575 - 03/10/07 08:31 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: dllewel]
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: TN
OK, folks,

I am back after long discussions with you know whom and more measuring.

She wants "built-in" bookshelves. Long story short, my 16' long room became more like 14'. We have to put my components inside the bookshelves, and the amp I want is 19" deep. So she's building a (dry)wall 2' in front of the old wall, and "cutting" the (dry)wall for the bookshelves, flat panel AND fireplace! How I'm gonna hang the flat panel on drywall remains to be determined.

So my question is: how far can I sit from the M60s for good sound? From what I read, I don't want them inside the bookshelves, and I also want some room around them. If I place them 1' in front of the bookshelves and add their 15" depth, the front grill is now at 11.75' from the back wall...

What do I do? My budget allows for the M60s, I want the M60s, but now that my room has gotten smaller, should I go with the M22s?

Please provide ideas, corrections on my thinking (like "who says you can't ....").

Also, is it ok for the display to be a foot or two behind the fronts? From the image on the main axiom.com page, I would think yes.

The new measurements: on the right wall with the 2 windows: from the back wall to the back window: 28". Both windows are 53" in width. Between windows: 32". Second window to front wall as it is right now: 28".

Thank you lots,
Rodney
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#160576 - 03/10/07 09:12 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: Rodney]
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Registered: 02/23/04
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Loc: Illinois.
Either type of speaker would be great.

I think the M22s with stands, will have about the same "footprint" as M60s, and likely similar placement requirements..........so, it seems to me...M60s.

I have been back from my M60s: 7 1/2' to 13'..both were/are fine..(just a little toe-in adjustment).
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#160577 - 03/10/07 10:48 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: Rodney]
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Since space is an issue, have you considered the Architecture series, like the W22's. W150, etc. Not sure if this would be an option as it sounds your in the middle of construction.

I don't think you would have to have the m60's a foot from the wall, many people have great success in the 4-6" range. You can always slightly toe in the 60's towards the listening position.

The 22's are great also, especially when matched with a sub.

Randy
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#160578 - 03/15/07 02:10 PM Re: M22s or M60s? [Re: SirQuack]
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: TN
Thanks, guys.

I am trying to decide whether or not to buy the 350 subwoofer with the package for $678. Given my room size (1728 SqFt with a big opening on back wall), would I be able to get away with the 175 and still have good bass for action movies?

Or how about SVS and HSU?

Thank you,
Rodney
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