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#174501 - 08/14/07 04:59 PM Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference
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I was at the audio store the other day and was listening to a set of Vandersteen 2CEs I think and the new Quatro series. The sound was great but the imaging was spectacular and this is what got my attention. I began to wonder why I wasn't getting the same separation and imaging from my Axioms. I know understand just how much difference good equipment and room acoustics impacts sound. Enter the new Emotiva amp and processor. Once I set these up at my house, I noticed a vast improvement in the imaging and SQ of my system and more importantly, my Axioms. Poor things had never had anything feeding them where they could perform. Yes, great speakers make the most difference. However, great speakers can only do so much without decent input!! Just an observation.

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#174502 - 08/14/07 05:00 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: cgolf]
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#174503 - 08/14/07 05:10 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: Ken.C]
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#174504 - 08/14/07 05:14 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: cgolf]
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I disagree.
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#174505 - 08/14/07 05:19 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: cgolf]
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What was the room like that you listened to these speakers in? Was it treated for acoustics? did it have bass traps? did it have first reflection zone panels?

If all the above is YES, then, do all that to YOUR room, and then compare.
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#174506 - 08/14/07 05:31 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: Hutzal]
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"I now understand just how much difference good equipment and room acoustics impacts sound." That was a quote from my first post. Yes, the room had quite a bit of acoustical treatment. I believe that all 3 add value-speakers, equipment and room acoustics. Take any one away and it will impact the SQ in a particular room. All I can speak to is my experience at my house and the listening rooms at the audio store. When I added different equipment at my house with the same Axiom speakers and room acoustics, it made a world of difference in the sound. The Axioms came to life and performed the way they were designed to perform. And they could probably sound even better if I treated the room differently with bass traps, etc. I realize that the rooms at the store are setup to sound the way they do. I'm just trying to get more of what I heard with what I have.

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#174507 - 08/14/07 05:35 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: cgolf]
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#174508 - 08/14/07 05:54 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: cgolf]
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Charles,

You are in quality/process improvement. So please put your Six Sigma black belt on and provide your measurements to back up your claims .

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#174509 - 08/14/07 05:55 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: cgolf]
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well, if you really want see if you are "missing out" on something, you could take your mains (whatever they may be) to the audio store and see if they will let you do a double blind test in their acoustic room.

Although I highly doubt it because it would be detrimental to all other customers in that store going "who the heck is Axiom and why do they sound so much better than those other expensive speakers?"
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#174510 - 08/14/07 05:59 PM Re: Speakers and Equipment-both make a difference [Re: Hutzal]
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My reading of it is not that Charles is comparing to the store as much as he is comparing his previous equipment to his new equipment.

Search on "audio memory" to find my views on this...


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