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#179856 - 10/20/07 07:32 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: chesseroo]
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo

The expense of two M22s for this recommended purpose is a bit much. One must also note the extra power issues required to wire and run it.
No extra expense when upgrading It just becomes another option.
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#179857 - 10/20/07 07:43 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: jakewash]
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Here, try one of these on for size.


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#179858 - 10/20/07 07:44 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: chesseroo]
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As for the EP350 on pucks...





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#179864 - 10/20/07 08:24 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: chesseroo]
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Who was it that said they hated Pics that made you scroll?

I take it you went to pucks to try a downfiring sub. Do you remember anything about it, good or bad? That VP150 looks extremely tall like that.
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#179888 - 10/21/07 12:24 AM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: Mojo]
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Any one try M3s on the top and bottom also ?

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#179933 - 10/21/07 03:38 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: sst]
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I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark last night as well as LOTR and I must say that the VPM144 or the VPM194 is the way to go. I tried to distinguish between these 2 setups and about the only difference I could come up with is that the VP150 adds a bit of extra warmth/fullness to the center channel. I noticed no phasing as Mojo and I did with just the dual M22's during the LOTR Narration at the beginning of the movie.

Alas I didn't find my SPL meter either so I cannot confirm how much extra SPL this configuration gives over dual or single center channels. Maybe today.

My little Denon 1804 cranked out the sound with out any trouble at all. I unplugged my sub during LOTR, as the dynamics in that movie are off the scale and it was getting close to 2AM, I didn't want to wake everyone up. The M60's did a great job with the explosions even with the Mains still set to no LFE and crossover at 80hz
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#179948 - 10/21/07 06:33 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: jakewash]
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In the VPM194 configuration, I take it that the 150 was above, correct?

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#179951 - 10/21/07 06:41 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: Mojo]
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Mojo, you would be correct sir. I couldn't switch them any easier at the lower position, so I just swapped them out at its normal spot in my setup. A single speaker up there is way easier than the 2 M22s.

I forgot to mention I did wander around my room and found off axis to be better with either of the VPM setups, particularly the VPM194. I also toed out the M22s and that gave a little bit of a locateable sound when off axis to the nearest speaker but no or very little drop out, at least to my ears. When sitting in the sweet spot with the toed out M22s there was no appreciable difference.

I really have to find my meter.
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#179957 - 10/21/07 07:21 PM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: sst]
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 Originally Posted By: sst
Any one try M3s on the top and bottom also ?


Me! Very happy. One above my SXRD TW and one below WT.

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#180018 - 10/22/07 08:36 AM Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s [Re: bugbitten]
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Re: the difference in a room for M60's...
I have two sets, on pair upstairs for stereo in a large living room with cathedral ceilings with open beams. The rear wall is broken up by stairs going upwards around a landing to an open catwalk above. Either side of this is recessed with a door going out on the left and on the right a recessed area leading into the mud/laundry room. The right wall has glass dorrs (always open) leading into a den and the left has a large open area into the kitchen.

I was really afraid of what all this would do to the sound but it it truly amazing. I've since realized its almost a 'church like' design and it just works but without the big echo like sound of a large church. The bass coming from the M60's was so crisp clear and powerful that I took away the little subwoofer from my old setup that I thought I might need to fill the room. People contantly comment on the rich bass coming from the M60s.

Now in my HT room in the basement, it an acoustic nightmare. Much smaller, almost a perfect square, wood floors with just a couch and a coffee table. Most of the walls are still bare and we are still looking for a rug we like. The M60s are still very clear on the highs but the bass is totally lost. It's all my EP500 can do to try recreate the sound I have upstairs. Fortunately, it's up to the task although I still prefer upstairs for it's more relaxing sound quality.

I could easily be a demo house for the differences room accoustics make on a sound system.
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