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#179977 - 10/21/07 09:55 PM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 08/23/07
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Loc: Toronto, ON Canada
I don't think Randi makes that claim anywhere. He is trying to get purveyors of Bul$41T (of any kind)to put up or shut up. Many people talk about taking the challenge but most back out with all kinds of lame excuses. The ones who take the test are usually either self deluded or dumb con artists who think they can get past the protocols to get the money. Everyone has failed so far.

His weekly rant and report called the Swift comes out every Friday and I recommend it highly to anyone who is skeptically inclined. He has taken on a lot of "Golden Ear" audio nonsense lately and it makes for fun reading.

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#179978 - 10/21/07 10:04 PM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: Rick_Whittle]
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Imo any high end cable maker would be a fool to take this challenge, not only do I believe they could not back up their claim of better acoustics but they would make a pariah of themselves within their little community of snakeoil salesman by killing everyone's business if the findings did not go in their favor. Not a gamble I think they would take.
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#179979 - 10/21/07 10:07 PM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: jakewash]
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Yeah, I noticed that, too. Didn't make any sense.
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#179986 - 10/21/07 11:11 PM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: HomeDad]
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Michael, it's only wishful thinking that the result would be "killing everyone's business". Similar blind listening tests in the past indicating that there're no magic amplifiers, players or wires have been dismissed or ignored by the hopeful and gullible.
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#180015 - 10/22/07 08:06 AM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: JohnK]
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Registered: 08/23/07
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Loc: Toronto, ON Canada
I have a colleague at work who has "Golden Ears" syndrome. He believes that he has heard differneces between wires. He even believes that equipment with vibration dampening weights sounds better! When I talk double blind listening tests to him he thinks they are invalid because to him it is the subjective that matters. Not good thinking on his part.

People actually want to belive in magic. If you are a true beliver all the evidence in the world won't sway you. Snake Oil will always find customers.

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#180023 - 10/22/07 09:21 AM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: Rick_Whittle]
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He even believes that equipment with vibration dampening weights sounds better!

I take it he wasn't referring to a record player, right? \:\)
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#180024 - 10/22/07 09:22 AM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: Rick_Whittle]
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People actually want to belive in magic. If you are a true beliver all the evidence in the world won't sway you.

Some call it faith.
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#180038 - 10/22/07 10:39 AM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: pmbuko]
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Exactly!

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#180040 - 10/22/07 10:49 AM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: Rick_Whittle]
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I didn't want to use the F word. Some people are sensitive.

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#180115 - 10/22/07 09:42 PM Re: You know that $1 millon speaker wire challenge [Re: Rick_Whittle]
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My comment wasn't meant as a judgment, just an observation.
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